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Fair HeadHoncho Shoots Me Down(long)
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KellyGa    Posted 10-11-2004 at 17:15:57       [Reply]  [No Email]
Well, as you all know, Tip and I have practiced and practiced for our little agility show we do with the man I bought her from that does the stockdog demonstration at the Ga Natl Fair. We do our little thing, then he demonstrates how the dogs herd the sheep. I was all set to do this for two weekends, this past weekend and this coming up weekend. It is a very big deal for me, being part of the fair, doing it with the man that sold Tip to me.

I hold the deepest admiration and respect for this man. I hold him very high in my eyes. He is, after all, the very person that changed my life when he sold Tip to me.

This past Sunday morning, we started our first show of the day, and the batteries had gone dead in the little remote for the speakers, so he called for some more batteries, and expected just a peon to come and bring the batteries, but...that didnt happen. One of the bigwig ladies brought the batteries, and as she was not happy. She asked himw what the h$ll was all that out on the demontration area. He immediately retaliated, don't know exactly what all was said, but he was pretty mad about it because she said I couldn't do that anymore. He told her I was going to stay and finish out that day regardless.

Now, the whole basis of Tip and I doing this was to show the versatility of the breed, the border collie. Headhoncho tells him its not in the guidelines of being part of agriculture, of being part of the agriculteral story.

So, he comes to me after the 11 am show and tells me what happened. Well, I immediately got mad and said that was BULLSH*T! He said he knew that, but there was nothing else he could do or say. He could have ended up getting the boot if he made too many waves, and he told me they pay him a lot of money to do the fair. He asked me not to push the issue, to just let it go, but you know me, I can't keep my mouth shut for two seconds.

There was a lady that wanted to see my part of the show, and missed it, she was talking to him as I walked up and told me this, all I said was, "Well, you know what you can do..." and he cut me off and gave me the steeliest, coolest cut right through me, hurt me...bad, because I hold this man close to my heart. He told me, NO KELLY...NO The lady apologized for causing a problem, but he assured her she hadnt, and proceeded to say if I was going to say it to her I had probably already said it to others. I didn't..and I was only going to say...if she liked it she should tell somebody, that maybe they would reconsider.

I am a pretty tough lady, but he broke my heart, smashed it into a million pieces. I never cry, so I just said FINE and went back to gathering my equipment and packing it up in the truck. I could feel that bad feeling working its way up to my gut, and then to my tear ducts, I fought it for a while...then I just went to the truck, popped me a beer...poured it in a cup, and literally cried in my beer. Shelby came over to see what was wrong, I told her I would be okay to just give me a few minutes.

Then, I was sad about not being able to ever do the fair again, and upset and disappointed about it. Words do not describe that feeling I had. I was mad, I was sad, hurt mostly. About the time I cleared myself up, a nice man, he is an auctioneer, also a good friend of his, came up and wanted to talk to me about where I purchased the tunnels, well, I started crying all over again, and he said "Uh Oh, I came at a bad time" I told him "No, I am just upset because they won't let me do the fair anymore" I went on and said a few other things, and later Dewey said I shouldn't have said anything, becaue he knew that he would go back and tell somebody and it would come back on him not me. You see, this gig pays a lot, and it supplements his income pretty well apparently, so he hates doing it anymore, but he does it strictly for the money, which I was disappointed to hear, but after hearing how over the years the fair headhonchos have treated him, I understand.

So, I put Tip and Shelby in the truck, had us all ready to go, poured me another beer and went and sat down with him. I wanted to leave on good terms, and I am one to say what is on my mind, I don't like to leave things hanging and unsaid.

I told him I had the highest respect for him, that he had changed my life with the purchase of Tip, and that I was sorry if I had caused any trouble. I let him know it was a very big deal for me to do the fair with him, and he really hurt my feelings earlier, and I didn't mean any harm. He went on to tell me he totally understood, and it distressed him to see me so upset about it, but there was just nothing he could do about it. He said maybe I shouldn't hold him so high, and that he should have asked the fair people if I could do it before hand 2 years ago. I did it two years ago also. I tol dhime no, that it wasnt all bad, afterall, I may have never done any of these things without his prompting, so it wasnt a bad thing.

I am just really sad. I don't do a lot of things for "me". This was one of those things that I loved. I get excited, I look forward to it. TO be shot down like this hurts really bad. I don't think that lady knew what she was saying when she said it. The fact of the matter is, when I do my show, it draws in more people for the whole show. People walk by and see that equipment set up, and they stop to wait for the show and that is so great.

I am telling all of you this, because, I don't have anybody else to tell. I called Ian last night at work to tell him what had happened, and he didn't understand how I felt. I know this because he just said "Oh well". He does not understand at all. It was a very hard blow.

On a better note...I will leave y'all with the good news that Shelby and her Flemish Giant Rabbit Tyler won a first prize blue ribbon in the Youth, and he won second place in the Open B. :) I am so proud! So, it wasnt all bad.

I will miss doing the fair, it really was the highlight of the fall season for me...and now, I don't know exactly how to feel about it.

For those of you that read this to the end, thanks for listening, reading, and putting up with me, I just felt the need to release it all here, hope y'all understand me better than Ian did.

Ron/PA    Posted 10-12-2004 at 08:36:46       [Reply]  [No Email]
Kelly, It's a real shame that this had to happen. You two worked yer tailz off getting ready. I guess now you know why I keep saying, "The more I'm around people, the more I like my dogs!"
As for Ian, I sure won't try to explain the man that you know better than anyone in the whole world, but I really should say, that I've been there done that and got the T shirt to prove it.
I've gotten those calls, when I'm miles away on the road, and for all my hurt, and sympathy, sometimes I just can't think of anything better to say??? Oh well usually comes out wrong, but it really means, their loss.
Hope yer week gets better

KellyGa    Posted 10-12-2004 at 08:49:42       [Reply]  [No Email]
Thanks Ron, and I do know exactly what you mean. Sometimes I think I could move out to a hundred acres and have a good handful of animals, and want for nothing else other than to stay right there. :) I know Ian knows it meant a lot to me, and he isnt good at expressing his feelings sometimes. I know he knows it came out wrong, because after he said that, I just sounded exasperated, and told him never mind. My week will get better, we are going to NC in two weeks to the big rabbit show in Shelby, NC no less! Shelby is very excited, and so am I. Thanks for the kind words, its much appreciated. :)

KellyGa    Posted 10-12-2004 at 09:31:19       [Reply]  [No Email]
As big as her Flemish Giant is, he could herd! LOL! He scares the poo outta the chickens when he hops around the back yard! LOL! A rabbit herding chickens,

Ron/PA    Posted 10-12-2004 at 09:12:09       [Reply]  [No Email]
Yain't got herding rabbits do ya??????????

Patria    Posted 10-12-2004 at 07:39:19       [Reply]  [No Email]
Kelly..I don't have anything to add to what our friends on the forum replied to you, only that I'm sorry it didn't turn out the way it should have. I know you'll take care of it though, cause you're not one to take crap lightly.
oh and congrats on Shelby's fine rabbit's first price!

KellyGa    Posted 10-12-2004 at 07:55:18       [Reply]  [No Email]
Thanks Patria, and I will be sure to tell Shelby all on here said congrats. :) I think Fern is about to do something about it for me... I think if he was closer hed have a mind to go there in person and give her a piece of his mind...:)

Donna from Mo    Posted 10-12-2004 at 03:42:03       [Reply]  [No Email]
It appears to me that the unkindest cut of all was your friend (from whom you got your dog) seemed to have turned on you... or at the very least, failed to uphold you.

At the Missouri State Fair, there are a group of dogs whose whole show is made up of the stuff you and your dog do, and it draws an overflow crowd, four times a day. Surely there are places where this sort of act is wanted?

My granddaughters wanted to see the show again, they enjoyed it so much.

KellyGa    Posted 10-12-2004 at 08:58:45       [Reply]  [No Email]
You are right Donna. He did fail me, I thought he would stick up for me more. Thanks for the link, I will check it out. :)

Willy-N    Posted 10-11-2004 at 22:08:41       [Reply]  [No Email]
Boy they sure gave you a bunch of cr#p!! I think I would have acted the same way. All the planning and work you did to get ready and to be shut down like that. Makes you wonder what kind of clicks run theses fairs! Mark H.

KellyGa    Posted 10-12-2004 at 08:01:17       [Reply]  [No Email]
Yeah...thats why Dewey says he hates being there anymore...thanks... :)

New-Gen    Posted 10-11-2004 at 21:12:05       [Reply]  [No Email]
Wait a minute...let me get this straight...she said a demonstration of how a dog herds sheep isn't part of the "agricultural story"? Sounds like somebody's not in touch with agriculture.
C'mon up here, we have REAL county fairs run by REAL FARM people who actually understand AGRICULTURE!!!

KellyGa    Posted 10-12-2004 at 08:02:59       [Reply]  [No Email]
No...Tip doesn't herd the sheep, just his dogs. I do an agility course with Tip, the jumps, tunnels, stuff like that. I guess I was rambling, I knew I shoudl have worded things OH get what I mean

toolman    Posted 10-11-2004 at 20:28:51       [Reply]  [No Email]
sorry kelly what a bummer, i know how hard you and tip worked to be prepared and how much you were looking forward to this.

KellyGa    Posted 10-12-2004 at 08:06:31       [Reply]  [No Email]
Thanks Toolman, how is your baby doing? DId you get any results back?

mojo    Posted 10-11-2004 at 20:13:13       [Reply]  [No Email]
Sorry to hear.
Did you get into this to show an animal or to enjoy the dog itself?
For every high there is a low in life, and as long as you have gained from the experience you are ahead of the game. Miss High Falutin' lives for the power and prestige of it all and will see the day when she is upsurged by someone more canniving. You should pity her, someday she'll have nothing.

KellyGa    Posted 10-12-2004 at 08:16:39       [Reply]  [No Email]
I love Tip, and I am proud of her, so I do it to enjoy her and I together, but I like to show her off too...cause she is such a great dog. :) I hope she lives to regret her hasty decision. Not a very nice lady..not very nice at all.

Mike Ga    Posted 10-11-2004 at 20:02:24       [Reply]  [No Email]
Sorry to hear about your bad experience. I was at the fair Saturday and noticed a lot of things unorganized going on. My cousin usually shows his boer goats there. He has been showing for the past 7 years but did not this year. He found out who the judges were and refused to enter. He said they only pick thier favorites and has nothing to do with the best goats. The judges have friends that enter and they are the ones that get the top ribbons. Its the same in anything I guess. Its all in who you know. Again sorry about your misfortune.

KellyGa    Posted 10-12-2004 at 08:25:15       [Reply]  [No Email]
Awww, I wish you could have seen me and my Tip. We were right over where they were showing the boer goats, I was watching for alittle while...about the chaos..yep, the rabbit show was kinda like that too. :( Only good thing about the rabbit show is the way they do it, they dont know where the rabbit comes from, so its totaly anonymous to the judges.

Les    Posted 10-11-2004 at 19:01:36       [Reply]  [No Email]
Sorry to hear that, Kelly. Things like that killed our fair. It was the oldest one in New Hampshire but it died about 12 years ago because nobody gave a flip anymore. Lots of infighting and factions.
Plus the heyday of agriculture around here peaked around 1850 :(

KellyGa    Posted 10-12-2004 at 08:52:12       [Reply]  [No Email]
Thanks Les. See...thats the thing. Most of the folks who go to the fair don't know squat about agriculture, they just come to see stuff. Most don't know what it all involves and they don't care, they just want to have a good time, see the animals, see the livestock shows, and all the other things the fair has to offer. Thats why I don't see what the big deal was. Oh well, I am forming a plan...just have to think these things out.

Alias    Posted 10-11-2004 at 18:53:23       [Reply]  [No Email]
Aw darn it kelly, this is bad news all around. I was looking forward to reading that you and tip did youselves proud. Now, I know that some people don't consider training a dog as much of an accomplishment. But, they don't know the work that goes into such endeavor. And, to be denied the chance to show your stuff is a heartbreaker.
Sounds to me like the Head Honcho has a problem. Because, in time past, a good herd dog was as much a part of the agricultural process as a team of mules.

Don't let this stop you. keep training and show the old biddy what she turned away. Just keep on ah smiling and stay as happy as tip.....gfp

KellyGa    Posted 10-12-2004 at 08:56:01       [Reply]  [No Email]
Thanks George...I think I know what I am going to do, been sitting here thinking about it all. Tip had a really good time at the fair, the more she watched the other dogs herd those sheep the more she wanted to do it too! YOu could see it in her eyes! Tip is happy anywhere as long as she is with me, I know that, means the world to me to have a dog like her love me for me. :) Who needs the crummy fair when I got her all to myself anyway? :)

Gerrit    Posted 10-11-2004 at 18:42:49       [Reply]  [No Email]
I don't believe how some people can be so dang ignorant! That Mrs. Big Shot must have a big, huge problem..

I'm really sorry for you, Kelly.. We all know how much time and effort you've put in to get Tip ready for the fair!

Don't let this experience put you down, though. You've had a great time, training with your dog and nobody can take that away from you! I'm sure you'll find other occassions where you and Tip can show what you achieved!

KellyGa    Posted 10-12-2004 at 09:08:34       [Reply]  [No Email]
Thanks for the encouraging words, they are much appreciated. :) I will find something else to do with Tip, thinking about the local school fairs, maybe they will pay me a small fee to do our act at their fairs. :)

James(Ga)    Posted 10-11-2004 at 18:09:20       [Reply]  [No Email]

PS Sorry Kelly i havent gotten over my tuff weekend yet either. Give Shelby a hug for me and tell her Congrats on her wins with her rabbit. James(Ga)

KellyGa    Posted 10-12-2004 at 09:10:05       [Reply]  [No Email]
I just went back and read, what a weekend! Whew! I know you must have been kinda panicky when you couldnt get around and then started feeling poorly. I am glad you got through it okay, must have been scary. Take care of yourself now! :) ((((HUGS)))))

James(Ga)    Posted 10-11-2004 at 18:02:29       [Reply]  [Send Email]

Hi Kelly, I read the post all the way but still dont understand what happen. All i can say is i,m so sorry and i know it meant so much to you.I would like to say i know how you feel but since i,m not in your shoes i cannot. But i do feel and understand your disappointment. If you read the post from last friday moening you will see that i had one heck of a weekend too. I know your are hurt and mad at the same time i wish i could say or do someting to make you feel better. I left my email addy open if you want to talk. As for reading your post,I read ALL your post. Friend James

KatG    Posted 10-11-2004 at 17:36:32       [Reply]  [Send Email]
Bless your heart KellyGa...Wish I could have been there with you...I have been known for not keeping my mouth shut in situtions like this...Seems like bit*#@ like that have always tried to put me down...and did most of my life...When I met this husband he told me and I quote " Little girl, don't let anyone be mean to you...not even me.." Guess I took him to heart because I started standing up for what I thought was right at the time...but beleive you me I have been wrong and apoligised and ate alot of crow in my 48 years...
What is the exact reason they don't want you to do you dog show at the fair? Our fairs are glad to get anyone that is interested in talking part...Talk to the head of the fair and get them to schedule yours and Tips show in...
I know what it is to have someone that you think so highly of to dissapoint you...Hurts...
I figure Ian is your husband???
Talk to your local organizations and bet they would love for ya'll to do benifits for them...not only helping them but giving you a chance to let Tip do her thing...I would love to see it myself...
Some folks are just plain sour grapes..
HAve you got a local paper??? Write a letter to the editor about this...sure helps to express your emotions and it would surprize you who might read it...
I want tell you not to let it bother you because that you be dumb...I know it bothers you and will for awhile...
When I get real mad at husband...I go to the barn and give him a good cussing to the cows...They look funny at me but I get it off my chest and they don't repeat it...
Enjoy Tip...and know what ya'll can do...she will be able to sense something is wrong...Animals are so smart..In fact I seem to get along with cows and chickens better than folks sometimes...
HAng in there Kelly...Get tough and hold your head high...they were the asses not you...KAtG

KellyGa    Posted 10-11-2004 at 17:48:50       [Reply]  [No Email]
Thanks Kat, yeah Ian is my husband, he is a wonderful man, but just doesnt get it sometimes. The lady said the reason I couldnt do it was it didnt fit into the story of agriculture. Phhht...whatever...I told Dewey she should want it, it draws such a big crowd. He said he knew that, but they don't care about that. He has gotten to really hate that I share his sentiments somewhat. Maybe my chickens will listen to my rants, lol, never thought of that, they are all very attentive to yours and your cows are, lol. Thanks for the encouragement. I have a friend that said her elementary school her kid goes to had a fair, and the school would have paid me to do the gig. Too bad she didnt think of it sooner. Maybe I can do something like that. Right now I am not really up for anything, got to get my mind straight. Hate to think about the fair going on next weekend and I wont be there.

KatG    Posted 10-11-2004 at 18:56:58       [Reply]  [Send Email]
Kelly get you a tee shirt made up with yours and Tips photo on it and head out to that fair...Talk to everyone about your dog...That will hurt them worse than anything...Don't let them think they made you knuckle under...Spit in there eye!!!!...KAtG

KellyGa    Posted 10-12-2004 at 07:52:48       [Reply]  [No Email]
Not a bad idea...I know something will come of all this, just don't know what yet..

PS    Posted 10-11-2004 at 17:26:09       [Reply]  [No Email]
This also the man that has the dying dog, the dog that has a tumor in his lung. He is dealing with a lot right now. He has decided not to have him operated just let him go. I didn't mean to add to his problems, but I had to leave there knowing everything was okay between the two of us, and it was.

Chas in Me    Posted 10-11-2004 at 18:06:07       [Reply]  [No Email]
You are a remarkable person and I'm glad I know you, even if it is through this medium.
Unwarranted disappointments, especially from unknowing and uncaring people are tough.
Miss High&mighty doesn't undersyand all there is to the various phases of agriculture, or she would have no problems with the trainability of Border Colloies.
She also has no understanding of human aspiration and pride in a job well done.
Because of her ignorance, she was able to hurt you in two different ways.
Remember, this is her problem, not yours. I have come to know and appreciate you as have many other visitors to this site. We were all pulling for you and Tip. Take some comfort that we were doing that because we all like you.
Keep working with Tip, get some personal strength back and be ready to do your show again. Then ask your Library, your local Grange, The regional Soil and Water Conservation District , the local 4H Director or the Cooperative Extension Service to sponsor you and Tip for a demonstration. Be sure to invite the local press and sooner or later the fair people will realize their mistake.

Remember, the chickens think you are one of them. They don't even know what is going on. This is important to you. Make it happen.

Chas, bordering on Canada without a collie, up here in Maine.

KellyGa    Posted 10-12-2004 at 09:07:10       [Reply]  [No Email]
Thanks for the kind words Chas, I need them. :) I think I know what I am going to do. I have about decided what to do. I know I won't be able to do the fair anymore either way, so I might as well say my piece. And I will...oh, and the chickens are all well again! I hated toleave them for the weekend, had three feeling down in the mouth before I left, but dosed them with the terramycin, came back, all is well! YAY!!

jeanette    Posted 10-12-2004 at 04:17:56       [Reply]  [No Email]
what did the other dogs do that was related to agriculture?
i'm so sorry that happened to you. maybe you show her there are no hard feeling and bake her some cookies,(laced with exlax of coarse)

KellyGa    Posted 10-12-2004 at 07:51:42       [Reply]  [No Email]
he he...yeah...exlax, lol. I guess they see the other dogs linked to agriculture by herding sheep. I guess sheep are an agriculteral commodity, the way it looks anyway. Thanks for responding. :)

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