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It's happening all over again
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steve19438    Posted 10-16-2004 at 05:55:34       [Reply]  [Send Email]
reservists refusing to show for duty/deployment and a reservist supply unit refusing a mission in Iraq.
all too familiar.
do we never learn from our mistakes?


ron,ar    Posted 10-16-2004 at 12:04:30       [Reply]  [No Email]
They signed up to serve. And serve they should. A soldier follows orders. All those retirement and education benifits come with a pricetag. If things go well for 20 yrs and all you lose is a few weekends a year and get the bennies, fine and well. If things go badly you still signed to serve. You take your chances just like the rest of us. I didn't like leaving solid ground on that ship to ride out a typhoon several times but it came with the territory.


kraigWY    Posted 10-16-2004 at 06:57:40       [Reply]  [No Email]
I remember one young kid was scared to death from storys of how terrable the meekly M16 was. He was gonna get killed cause the gun didn't work. When handed the little critter the first time, plastic, not wood, little bitty bullet. That didn't help. But the kid grew up under a father who was strick when it came to taking care of his tools. It rubbed off on the kid. Guess what, the little gun worked great. You take care of you tools they will take care of you, weather you are a soldier or a farmer. Soldiering is a lot like farming, jobs and conditions change, sometimes it takes a little time to adjust the tools to the condition or job, But there is no better equiped soldier or farmer in the world theN the good old USA. Soldiers can't be too bad off if their support for the commander in chief is in the 70% range. A lot has to do with how that soldier is supported back home while deployed. I pray to God when this war is over we don't go back to the old policy of DOGS AND SOLDIERS KEEP OFF THE GRASS.


Alias    Posted 10-16-2004 at 09:02:19       [Reply]  [No Email]
Kraig, I'm with you one hundred percent. But, I do recall the story about a little girl playing in the front yard called to her mother and said.

Hey Mommy, there's a soldier coming down the street.

The mother said, come into the house.

the girl said, oh, no mommy, it's not a soldier. It's a sailor.

The mother said, bring the dog with you.

A little humor to go with the, I support the troops.......gfp


bob ny    Posted 10-16-2004 at 06:23:00       [Reply]  [No Email]
they should be punished to the full extent of the military laws .they signed an oath when they joined and should have lived up to it . there were plenty of times in korea that i was scared to move forward but i never refused . i thought , what if this was america what would i do ,run hel no .they are part of the military the same as the regulars .


bob    Posted 10-16-2004 at 06:35:10       [Reply]  [No Email]
the question that bothers me is if equipment was not worthy . I have a cousin who,s boy is over there and he wrotr hus dad that clips in M16 ,s were just junk cousin sent some ovr to hom and his buddies. I would have doubted this but he is a very stauch republican. I would like to believe we are furnishing our troops with the best but am having second thought. Remember when Carter sent rescue peole in and everything broke down


bill b va    Posted 10-16-2004 at 09:49:04       [Reply]  [No Email]

thats not as bad as going to war with bad inteligence ( so they say ) and now trying to justify it as good thing . why i remember not too long ago when they said the inteligence was so good they coud tell what se+ a flea was on a dog in the desent


easy to Monday-morning QB    Posted 10-17-2004 at 04:02:29       [Reply]  [No Email]
I love how so many folks with 20-20 hindsight now claim the President lied.

When I was first learning my profession (what used to be called the Profession of Arms...soldiering) many years ago, one of the first things we were taught is something called "the fog of war."

Basically what that describes is the inability, at all levels of command, to know exactly what is going on at any given time. You must learn to gather as much information as quickly as possible, sift through it, and make decisions in a timely manner knowing full well that at least some if not all of your information is potentially wrong. This has been true in every war, and will always be true.

THE WORLD (including the U.N) believed Iraq had WMD and at least some ability and intent to use them. To *not* act after 9-11 would have been irresponsible.

Bkeepr: Tom A


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