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Now the RED CROSS
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steve19438    Posted 10-20-2004 at 09:43:24       [Reply]  [Send Email]
has pulled out of iraq. situation BLEAK!


Gary in Geneva    Posted 10-21-2004 at 09:22:33       [Reply]  [Send Email]
One of my wife’s coworkers had a tree come through the roof of her condo during one of the hurricanes. The Red Cross did not provide her with assistance of any kind. I know she does not have two nickels to rub together as she declared bankruptcy a little over a year ago and almost all of her income is going to her creditors to pay off her debts. She has been staying with friends because she has no where else to go until the $#^#$%^ condo association fixes the roof. They have told her hers will be the LAST one to be fixed – aren’t they a nice bunch!

FEMA has been almost worthless as well.

My father always talked about when he was stationed in Karachi and Burma during WWII the Red Cross was SELLING cigarettes, soap, crackers, candy, etc. that was donated stateside, and marked as such.


Here we go again...    Posted 10-21-2004 at 10:44:19       [Reply]  [No Email]
Try reading about this 'urban legend' a bit before continueing to pass on this disinfo...

http://www.greaterkzooredcross.org/News/Myths%20&%20Legends.htm

Salmoneye,



deadcarp    Posted 10-20-2004 at 14:28:55       [Reply]  [No Email]
in 1971, when the red cross charged us earthquake victims $1 for a cup of coffee, i decided they're vultures. but i still held out hope for them til their ceo started whining about her 7 million/year bonus. right now i don't give a darn if the iraqis get them all, any more than i sympathise with those leeches at halliburton. from my grandkids' viewpoint, good riddance.


Uh...    Posted 10-20-2004 at 17:21:06       [Reply]  [No Email]
Got anything to back up these assertions...If not, then they are at best 'annecdotal'...

Salmoneye,

PS.....You are also including yourself in the crew that did not bother to read the rest of the thread...It is not the Red Cross that 'suspended' operations in Iraq, but the organization known as 'CARE'...

Consider yourself now one of Stevies toys...

Salmoneye,



steve19438    Posted 10-20-2004 at 20:32:32       [Reply]  [Send Email]
well "sallie" i was watching the local noon news and they definately reported it was the red cross!


Salmoneye    Posted 10-20-2004 at 23:37:19       [Reply]  [No Email]
And you insisted that it was the Red Cross even after I asked you if you were possibly mistaken, why exactly???



steve19438    Posted 10-21-2004 at 06:07:17       [Reply]  [Send Email]
i work from 3 to 11 pm, how could i have responded? and btw i work at work, don't use up the bosses time by playing on the computer.


What a tool you are...    Posted 10-21-2004 at 06:23:42       [Reply]  [No Email]


Redmud    Posted 10-20-2004 at 14:13:11       [Reply]  [No Email]
After 9-11, Didn't the Red Cross have monies set aside for the familys of the terrorist who flew the planes into the buildings?


Uh...    Posted 10-20-2004 at 17:16:32       [Reply]  [No Email]
No...

If you have any evidence to that effect, then please post it...

You obviously did not read the rest of the thread, or you would know that it was not the Red Cross that suspended operations in Iraq, but 'CARE'...

Salmoneye



Huh?    Posted 10-20-2004 at 10:56:00       [Reply]  [No Email]
Do you have a link to what you are talking about?...

The ICRC (International Comitee of the Red Cross was busy in Falluja just yesterday:

http://www.icrc.org/Web/Eng/siteeng0.nsf/html/65WMEN!OpenDocument

You sure you don't mean 'CARE'?

http://www.channelnewsasia.com/stories/afp_world/view/112633/1/.html

Salmoneye,


Les    Posted 10-20-2004 at 13:16:26       [Reply]  [No Email]
Nah, the Red Cross boogied out of there long ago. Outside of their blood supply work, it is a useless organization.
If you were planning on sending them a donation, send it to the Salvation Army instead.


steve19438    Posted 10-20-2004 at 11:18:52       [Reply]  [Send Email]
red cross, one of their people was kidnapped yesterday.


Red Dave    Posted 10-20-2004 at 11:29:22       [Reply]  [No Email]
Not Red Cross, CARE


Paula    Posted 10-20-2004 at 11:20:16       [Reply]  [Send Email]
The CARE director was kidnapped - you sure it wasn't CARE? They've suspended their work in Iraq.

Paula


steve19438    Posted 10-20-2004 at 10:49:43       [Reply]  [Send Email]
i heard the "RC" was in cahoots with the "UN"!


PDB    Posted 10-20-2004 at 18:37:35       [Reply]  [No Email]
So is JK


Texas    Posted 10-20-2004 at 10:40:19       [Reply]  [No Email]
War...aint for the weak. Im sure our boys will do just fine without the Red Cross. Thier pulling out only goes to show the need for troops there to stabilize that country. Imagine the anarchy if we pulled out.


tacon1    Posted 10-20-2004 at 10:37:06       [Reply]  [No Email]
I fellow that used to work for me told me that when he was in Korea "police action" he was on a patrol that got cut off and they spent 5 miserable days out in the mud. When they got back to our side there was a Red Cross truck with hot coffee and donuts that looked like heaven. However, the Red Cross wouldn't give them anything unless they paid in cash! (Always made me wonder about why they treated our soldiers like that.) None of his patrol had any money so they went hungry and kept walking.


Bkeepr    Posted 10-20-2004 at 11:29:48       [Reply]  [No Email]
I had several bad experiences with the Red Cross, so I don't think much of them.

Started out when I was about 6, my Dad was in an Army hospital and not doing well, in fact was receiving last rights. The Red Cross rep came and told my Mom she'd better start getting ready to move out of our government quarters because we'd only have so many days once my dad kicked off. (He lived another almost 30 years, but of course we didn't know that at the time). Didn't offer any help, just "you'd better start packing."

Had similar heartless experience with Red Cross dealing with one of my troops when I was commanding a unit in Germany. Fortunately I was in a good position to set those jerks straight, but I wonder how many times that happens.

So, as I said, I don't think much of them at all.

Tom A


bob ny    Posted 10-20-2004 at 10:15:34       [Reply]  [No Email]
i'll bet the salvation army is staying to aid our troops


~Lenore    Posted 10-20-2004 at 10:46:24       [Reply]  [No Email]
i heard that story about the Red Cross from a veteran, too.
They wanted payment for their coffee and doughnuts and any other things.
Strange isn't it.
Clod told me when he was in DC, he was by their headquarters every day.
He said it is a large impressive building and the vehicles in the "special" parking spots were very impressive, too.
I guess it is a good paying job to be an executive with the Red Cross.


Steve from TN    Posted 10-20-2004 at 12:12:08       [Reply]  [No Email]
I have heard stories like that all my life. I wonder if anyone has looked it up on Urban Legends. I think I will try.


Dog's Friend    Posted 10-20-2004 at 13:24:17       [Reply]  [No Email]
The Red Cross as we know it is not active in Iraq. The Mid-East has the Red Crescent organization that is similiar to Red Cross, but I beleive is affliated with the International Red Cross based in Switzerland, not the money grubbing, blood selling D.C. based American Red Cross that has blighted the American landscape.


Salmoneye    Posted 10-20-2004 at 17:26:55       [Reply]  [No Email]
It is the ICRC that is active in 'the rest of the world'...The point of this thread is that the ICRC is alive and well in Iraq, and it is 'CARE' that has suspended operations...(how many more times do we need to say that Steve was wrong in his inflamatory post?)...

No one other than you seems to have a clue about this, and most keep going off about '$1/cup coffee'...

Let them complain when there is no blood available for their emergency operation here in the US...



Clod    Posted 10-20-2004 at 18:21:44       [Reply]  [No Email]
I dont use blood Salmoneye,I run on turpentine. I used to work in DC.. That sure is an expensive building down by the White house where Red Cross is. I know they make the hot spots in the USA and likely do great things but if I give I give to the Salvation Army.


Salmoneye    Posted 10-20-2004 at 23:30:49       [Reply]  [No Email]
No argument from me about the rediculous 'overhead' expenditures by most 'charitable organizations'...My only point is that someone relayed bogus information, and many people jumped right in to pile on without bothering to learn the facts...

The 'someone' is still unable to admit that they were mistaken, but now insists that it is the fault of someone else entirely...

PS.....Like it or not...Either you, or someone you know and love will someday need blood from that 'charitable organization'...

PPS.....The American Red Cross and the International Committee of the Red Cross, are indeed completely different entities...


steve19438    Posted 10-21-2004 at 06:11:38       [Reply]  [Send Email]
if only we were all as perfect as you.


Brian    Posted 10-21-2004 at 17:51:40       [Reply]  [No Email]
Wow, Will we ever learn! The red cross in all its good intentions per bylaws rarely puts the best message forward to explain what is obviously a very inconsistent message with it's mision in deed vs its image in truth!!!


Brian    Posted 10-21-2004 at 17:45:26       [Reply]  [No Email]
Wow, will we never learn.


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