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School bus issue
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SteveB    Posted 10-22-2004 at 07:05:33       [Reply]  [Send Email]
I received a disturbing email from my daughter this morning and I'm not sure how to deal with this. Below is a portion of the email with the names removed:

There is this kid at our school whos name is XXXXXXXXXXX. I have recieved info from someone i am not going to tell you here. He is to ride our bus with supervision of the bus driver is what he did

Convicted of 8 accounts of s@xually problematic or aggressive behavior.
S*xual behavior as follows:

Public mast* or exhibitionism
A@, oral or v** penetration
Lack of consent
Force of threat or use of weapon
bribes, trickery, intimidation or other coercion

Has a history of physical agreesion with both youth and adult


Who should I contact about this? I do not want this kid on the same bus as my kids. Parents and kids were not supposed to even know about it but the driver leaked the information. I'm located in Illinois.

ron,ar    Posted 10-22-2004 at 20:28:01       [Reply]  [No Email]
Willy-N has given the best advice for what to do ON the bus, but...It should never have gotten this far. First of all, most comments are correct in that they cannot discuss students personal matters with anyone outside the "system".
I would contact top administrator first, then local school board members. Our school board meetings have a time alloted for public imput. You can bring this before them without divluging privacy information.
Next is the state dept of pupil transportation. The State director of pupil transportation has the final say in most matters.
Here is the name and number of your state director according to my list. The name may have changed, my list is two years old, but it will get you into the door.
Marcia Sailsbury
Transportation Supervisor
State Board of Education
100 N. First Street
Springfield, IL 63777
Phone: (217) 782-5256
You may also contact the governors office, see Ferns post.
Threats won't help but information will. Make sure of your facts as much as is possible. If it were my child riding on that bus I would ask the district to transport the offender on a one-on-one basis. One driver, one bus, one student. We have several we have to transport like this. We also have several students who recieve one-on-one teaching. No contact with other students.
Hopefully this situation is not as serious as it seems. Keep this in mind, we all have rights, but the safety of the whole is more important than the privacy of one. Hope this helps.

Fern(Mi)    Posted 10-22-2004 at 17:29:58       [Reply]  [No Email]
My middle daughter is getting to know our Michigan Governor Jennifer M. Granholm better everyday. If all else fails?

DD    Posted 10-22-2004 at 17:05:12       [Reply]  [No Email]
Steve, not that it'd do much good when it's dark outside, but do ya'lls buses have video cameras on them like ours?

ron,ar    Posted 10-22-2004 at 20:05:07       [Reply]  [No Email]
Most of our buses have video cameras, but you are right, they are not much good in the dark.

Willy-N    Posted 10-22-2004 at 19:31:51       [Reply]  [No Email]
I don't have a video in my bus nor do any of the other ones. I leave the lights on in the rear area and it is required for us to do this if it is dark. That way I can watch the kids but they have a hard time seeing if I am! Mark H.

Willy-N    Posted 10-22-2004 at 13:36:01       [Reply]  [No Email]
On my Bus I can assign seats the way I see fit period. I would put him up front alone next to the door (I see kids better there while driving)and not have anyone sit behind him or beside him across the asle too. I would watch him like a hawk and the second he messed up I would ticket him. After a few tickets I could have him thrown off the bus. All legal like but you do have to follow the rules. Mark H.

John    Posted 10-22-2004 at 11:20:08       [Reply]  [No Email]
Schools don't like to be sued and boy are they setting themselves up for that if the story is true. I suspect there is a lot more or maybe a lot less to the story than we see here. Call the school superentendent and talk. He/She won't be able to tell you anything if most of this is true, but, they surely didn't get to the position they are in by being stupid enough to let something happen on their watch. Schools can sometimes be rather forced into taking students they would rather not have, but usually when that happens they are extra special careful to keep things from going from bad to worse.

Jet9N    Posted 10-22-2004 at 11:42:40       [Reply]  [No Email]
This is another lose-lose situation. The little
SOB has "rights" so the school can't discriminate
against him, but the same lawyer that defends him
will have brother frothing at the mouth to sue the
school if he acts up in school.



Snuffy    Posted 10-22-2004 at 10:21:28       [Reply]  [Send Email]
Sounds to me like he qualifies for the Special-ed bus. They usually have a full time aid on there to monitor the students.

Ron/PA    Posted 10-22-2004 at 09:43:25       [Reply]  [No Email]
Steve, IF these allegations are true, and you are uncomfortable with the situtation (I would be)
Then I'd be thinking about occupying that seat right next to him,, him by the window and me by the isle.
We'd ride to school in silence, but I'd sleep alot better at night.
The school district might balk, but you as a parent, and concerned citizen can run amuk and spout off everywhere you go.
Rattle this little creeps chains, and don't let up.

SteveB    Posted 10-22-2004 at 10:01:04       [Reply]  [Send Email]
Problem is I leave for work at 4am and the kids get on the bus at 6:30 then have an hour and half ride to school, most of which is in the dark. I don't see how a driver can be expected to watch the road, all the other kids then have this one added while driving in the dark.

I sent an email to the school principal but haven't heard anything yet

suspect you won't    Posted 10-22-2004 at 10:31:47       [Reply]  [No Email]
Assuming the story is accurate, the school staff won't discuss this with you...or won't discuss the other kid at any rate.

But you're right, the bus driver can't closely watch everything that goes on and it is foolish for them to say that they can. But the driver also can't say "no" either; if the school district tells him/her to carry a kid, then the driver has to do it or look for another job.

You may wind up stuck with finding another ride for your kid, if you are really concerned. Other alternative is to tell yours to stay a bus-length away from that kid no matter where he sits, and hope for the best.

Not a good situation, but unfortunately this is what happens when criminals have more rights than other folks.


JoeK    Posted 10-22-2004 at 07:52:09       [Reply]  [No Email]
FIRST,would be to calm down and and verify the facts,IN PERSON,with the school administrator. This may be difficult as juvenile records are sealed and confidential.If,indeed the allegations are factual,what is the potential for further offenses"on the bus","under the direct supervision of the driver".I would suspect this juvenile to be seated directly behind or across from the driver where"he" would be under observation at all times during transport.If not or the bus driver is not willing to take the responsibility then further discussion with the school and parties involved needs doing........Just my opinions.

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