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Cindi    Posted 10-23-2004 at 15:10:13       [Reply]  [No Email]
Okay who's the current e-mail detective. True or not?

Your Heinz bottles don't lie Check your Heinz bottles I checked and my bottle of Heinz catsup says "Product of Canada" Guess I'll be checking out all the Heinz products at the store! Shortly after reading the following e-mail content, I happened to look at the label of a jar of Heinz sandwich slice pickles. Yep...."Made in Mexico."
Check some of your Heinz products. Sen. John Kerry keeps talking about U.S. corporations leaving this country and setting up shop in foreign countries, taking thousands of jobs with them. He is right, because that has happened. However, he is trying to blame it on George W. Bush. As far as I know, Bush has not moved one factory out of this country because he is not the owner of a single factory. That cannot be said about Kerry and his wife,Teresa Heinz-Kerry. According to the Wall Street Journal, the
Kerrys own 32 factories in Europe and 18 in Asia and the Pacific. In addition, their company, the Heinz Company, leases four factories in
Europe and four in Asia. Also, they own 27 factories in North America, some of which are in Mexico and the Caribbean. I wonder how many hundreds of American workers lost their jobs when their plants relocated in foreign countries? I also wonder if the workers in Mexico and Asia are paid the same wages and benefits as workers in the United States. Of course they're not.
However, Kerry demands that other companies that relocate should pay the same benefits they did in the U.S. Why does he not demand this of the Heinz Company, since he is married to the owner?
If Kerry is elected, will he and his wife close all those foreign factories and bring all those jobs back to America? Of course they won't.

RichZ    Posted 10-23-2004 at 19:33:29       [Reply]  [Send Email]
Hmmmmm....I might have soemthing to say about this, but I made a promise to a certain friend that I'd never talk politics with her again!!! :>)

Uh oh (grin)    Posted 10-23-2004 at 19:49:41       [Reply]  [No Email]
Speak your mind, bud.


RichZ    Posted 10-24-2004 at 08:07:26       [Reply]  [Send Email]
Nope. I'll never (knowingly) do anything to endanger our friendship again!!! You mean way too much to me!!!!

Screw dang politics!!!!

Kokanee    Posted 10-23-2004 at 17:50:08       [Reply]  [No Email]
Almost everything I am wearing is made in China. Even my hat which displays the maple leaf with a hockey player { Wallmart } I have come to accept that not much is fabricated here any more. Even my General Motors car which displays on a small badge on the doorframe Assembled in Mexico.
Each time you see a cargo container on a flatbed think to yourself there goes another dollar store. The ports are backed up with ocean going freighters waiting to unload. Thats the situation we created. Now I find out that Heinz is owned by who. Stompin Toms gotta re-right a song or two. Just my opinion.

Sid    Posted 10-23-2004 at 17:35:35       [Reply]  [No Email]
I understand they do not own the company or have any say in any of the business descision. They do however as I understand it own stock that was inherited by Mrs Kerry. I would think however that if it is such an evil thing for the Heinz Co. to have plants out of the country that Mr and Mrs Kerry would sell their interest and chose to no longer profit from such an evil company.

Burrhead    Posted 10-23-2004 at 17:55:45       [Reply]  [No Email]
The boneheads from both polytix parties were on the talk shows claiming that Mz Kerry only owns 4% of the stock and that the factories were built before any of the present Heinz generation was even born.

They built them on every continent so that the purchasers of the product would always get locally produced foods made using local labor. Cuts down on transportation and labor cost and there is no import/export barriers that way.

Sounds like good bizness sense to me.

Cindi    Posted 10-23-2004 at 18:19:59       [Reply]  [No Email]
Oh I'm not suggesting that it's bad business sense, or even unheard of behavior. But Kerry does bash Bush for what he says are exactly those kinds of business practices. Taking jobs away from Americans. So if the allegations are true it is kind of the pot calling the kettle black.

Burrhead    Posted 10-23-2004 at 18:41:50       [Reply]  [No Email]
naw not exactly.

The jobs nor product are out sourced. They are domestic to the regions of sale.

There would be no sales if the food came from American production due to the cost of transportation and import tariff.

Cindi    Posted 10-23-2004 at 19:45:22       [Reply]  [No Email]
Yeah, I got that. I'm sure in most cases that's true. I would like to see the pay rates of the employees overseas and also the sale amounts of the products though before I make up my mind that they are 'innocent' of taking advantage of cheap labor.

Burrhead    Posted 10-23-2004 at 19:53:43       [Reply]  [No Email]
I did a search on Jeeves and looked at the info. When you look at the wage rates also remember to look at the sales prices of the product.

Folks get in a hurry to judge Mz Kerry. I personally dont care for her but when you compare her life to either Bush or Cheney wimmin Teresa looks more like Mother Teresa.

She donates more time and money to charity and volunteers more time than all of the others combined.

Clod    Posted 10-23-2004 at 20:11:55       [Reply]  [No Email]
And so does Burrhead. He lives in a church house.

George in TX    Posted 10-23-2004 at 15:29:19       [Reply]  [No Email]
Don't know if this makes me a real detective as it wasn't hard to find. The link at the top of this page pertains to your email so check that first. The other links on the page are all related to questions about Heinz so you might find them interesting too.

Cindi    Posted 10-23-2004 at 18:30:00       [Reply]  [No Email]
I understand and I don't. I mean, the majority of Heinz products have extremely long shelf lifes. Ketchup? You can't hardly kill ketchup. It seems like it could be easily shipped around the world. But I guess some of their other products fare better being produced in local markets, wherever they may be.

Howsomeever, even though Ms Heinz only has four percent of the shares in the company and no control power, it seems to me that she still benefits handsomely from those shares, and the one thing they didn't discuss is what the products sell for over there and if the prices are consistent with the wages that are paid for that production.

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