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Hydrualic information please
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Clod    Posted 10-23-2004 at 19:15:05       [Reply]  [No Email]
Now,here is what I want to do.Hook a hydro cylinder to the hydraulic system of an old 8N Ford. This way I can make a wood splitter,Does anyone know how to tap that hydro pressure to run the cylinder.

Bob/Ont    Posted 10-23-2004 at 20:48:23       [Reply]  [No Email]
You don't need to make one Clod. Just throw the wood on the ground and drive the D8 over it untill it will fit the stove.
Later Bob

Clod    Posted 10-23-2004 at 21:55:07       [Reply]  [No Email]
Hi Bob,,I came back by,Saw you here. Oh I was only thinking about this because this was a problem to figure out awhile back. But i often run upon those tractors and didnt know if the hydro could be tapped into.It is best to find out ahead of time incase you need the info.I got a lot here . Time for sleep.I guess the Sun is still up where you are.Does a lot of Canadians wear welding hoods to bed? See ya monyana pal.

Willy-N    Posted 10-23-2004 at 19:28:07       [Reply]  [No Email]
Right off the right side of the pump on the bottom of the tractor you will see a plug in a threaded hole. That will be the pressure side and the return will have to go into the inspection cover thru a taped in fitting. The lift arms will have to be chained up so the ram will stay extended under the top plate. The hydraulics are slow on the 8N and not very high pressure. You would be better off putting a PTO Driven pump or one off the front of the engine to work a log spliter. Mark H.

Willy-N Port Picture    Posted 10-23-2004 at 19:39:16       [Reply]  [No Email]

Here is a picture of the pump showing the pressure port coming out the side of it. Mark H.

Les    Posted 10-23-2004 at 19:33:11       [Reply]  [No Email]

Willy, I was just in the process of posting this picture when I see your post. This is my PTO driven pump woodsplitter on my VAC.

Willy-N    Posted 10-23-2004 at 19:35:46       [Reply]  [No Email]
Much faster way to run those big cylinders on the spliters. Mark H.

Les    Posted 10-23-2004 at 19:46:18       [Reply]  [No Email]

Here's another look at it, courtesy of Fawteen's website. He took this picture at my tractor show, July 2003.

Clod.. OK LOOKIE HERE    Posted 10-23-2004 at 20:07:32       [Reply]  [No Email]
You see the two picures of the slplitters on the back of the tractors? Now think about this.Bigger tractor,About the same hook up.But with a bit of enginuity you can drive fencepost with that kind odf thing.Or atleast.Make a pipe with a sharp point of high grade steel.Punch the hole,Drop in the post. The pipe welded to the sharp steel point goes up around the cylinder when it is up. OK,,Get to work on that one.

Willy-N    Posted 10-23-2004 at 20:00:04       [Reply]  [No Email]
That is a big ram! Nice set up. Mark H.

Les    Posted 10-23-2004 at 19:38:31       [Reply]  [No Email]
The guys I bought this from used to run it on an 8N. I'm surprised it didn't tip them right over backwards if they went up a 2% slope. It's bad enough with the VAC :(

Grove r    Posted 10-23-2004 at 19:20:48       [Reply]  [No Email]
External hydraulics are possible, but I do not remember exactly ask on the 8N board, Clod someone there should be able to set you along......R.E.L.

Clod    Posted 10-23-2004 at 19:32:51       [Reply]  [No Email]
Oh,,There is a man here who can make it work.He has not posted here yet.

Clod    Posted 10-23-2004 at 19:44:59       [Reply]  [No Email]
Thanks for all the help above,Pictures and all. I wondered why it is,If you can get the presure out the side. Then why you can not switch it ( two way valve) and use a double acting ram?? Im sure there is some reason ,,But I have heard you can't do it.

Willy-N    Posted 10-23-2004 at 19:58:04       [Reply]  [No Email]
Once you have constant pressure on the outlet you can use a two way valve to control the fluid to one end of the ram or the other. Just need to allow the return to go back into the tractor housing. Mark H.

Clod    Posted 10-23-2004 at 20:01:05       [Reply]  [No Email]
I didn't know there was so many Ford tractor geeks around this place tonight.Anyhow,Thanks for all that info. I enjoyed reading all of you folks advice.

Ron/PA    Posted 10-23-2004 at 20:39:34       [Reply]  [No Email]
If yer lookin for the guy that can make it work, hop on over to the N board and see if Zane can sit up yet. He'll tell you that the N pump is too slow and weak to do what you want efficiently. If you really want it to work, you might want to use an external engine, or a pto driven pump.
If you're setting out bait, I think yer quarry is on the road. LOL
Ron, one of the geeks.

toolman    Posted 10-23-2004 at 21:12:33       [Reply]  [No Email]
unfourtnately, thats what i think this was all about ron.

Willy-N    Posted 10-23-2004 at 21:17:56       [Reply]  [No Email]
I hope not I took the time to give him good answers but maybe he was getting even for me say to fool him in a post. The geek part thru me a little. Lot of 8N owners out there. I have owned probley 10 of them but took most of them apart. I now use a Massey 135 to work with. Needed more lifting power along with power steering and a few other goodies. Price was right too! Mark H.

toolman    Posted 10-23-2004 at 21:38:45       [Reply]  [No Email]
i seen that post the other night that he posted from the n board archives back from 1999 something about burrhead and n hydrualics, thats what ron was referring too so i chose not to get into the discussion . i have heard nothing but good about them 135,s i think im gonna keep my eyes open for one,what are the 165,s like are they a good tractor too i have seen a couple of them advertised?

Willy-N    Posted 10-24-2004 at 09:12:30       [Reply]  [No Email]
I realy like the Masseys I would love to have a 165 with a Front Loader. I am restrited to size due to cleaning the barns Cow Runway where they eat during the winter. The doors are 8 ft tall and 8 ft wide. The 135 works great in that space. I just re-did my driveway yesterday. Made it wider and re-graded the whole thing. I sure like having the blade hold where I want it to with out having to play with the Posision Control all the time. Mark H.

Grove r    Posted 10-24-2004 at 03:30:41       [Reply]  [No Email]
It pays to ignore the obvious..R.E.L.

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