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toolman    Posted 10-24-2004 at 20:17:42       [Reply]  [No Email]
a big policital debate(brawl) here could somebody explain to me how the electorical college works in the states, i have heard alot about it recently but am not sure how it all works.


Sid    Posted 10-24-2004 at 22:17:07       [Reply]  [No Email]
If you want info on the electoral college try this site www.fec.gov. Or you can do a search for electoral college. Some people say that the electoral college is unfair and outdated. Yet I have never heard any of them complain about an unfair outdated Senate. If I am not mistaken I hear some Canadians complain that your government only represents a small area of your country. That is what the purpose of the electoral coolege is to determine that all areas of the country get an equal share so to speak at representation. It is possible that that the people in the heavily populated areas representing a third of the area of the Nation elect a president that has no idea or even gives a hoot about the remaining two thirds of the Nation. So we would have a situation such as I understand exists in Canada in which a small geographical area decides who and what for the rest of the Country. Please forgive me as I do not mean to be picking on your country but am basing an assumption on different remarks made by folks saying they are from Canada on this and other boards. I feel the trouble with the electoral college is that many folks who do not understand how it works for various reasons make no effort to find out how it works.


Burrhead    Posted 10-24-2004 at 21:22:30       [Reply]  [No Email]
toolman the electoral college vote is not dependent upon the popular vote. If the electoral folks wanted to they can snafu a general election result.

In other words they can undo the outcome of an election at their own will with no repercussion except whining from the people.

Last election when it was unsure who was gonna get the Prez vote for Fla and be the winner of the election our wonderful Republican Supreme Court decided for us.

It does not matter if what they did was legal or ethical. It was $$$$$$$ and payback time to the Bush clan.

I read yesterday that the GOP has over 30,000 lawyers hired to monitor polling places. It looks to me like they are throwing away their money.

If the outcome can/will be declared by the same members of a Supreme Court who made the last presidential selection, then why would it matter how the vote turns out this time??


Clod    Posted 10-24-2004 at 22:08:07       [Reply]  [No Email]
GO BURR!! ATTA BOY BURR!


Burrhead    Posted 10-24-2004 at 22:20:45       [Reply]  [No Email]
What's the matter banjo boy.Ye been looking at them adult sites and cant get to sleep huh???

LMAO Doug you need to come out for air one day. This old world aint so bad. You just have to get yer head outtuh yer 3 point connector to see it.


Clod    Posted 10-25-2004 at 05:19:58       [Reply]  [No Email]
Are you up yet Fuzzy? I have to get up early and wash my nephews truck., I may check back by at noon to see if you got up by then.


big fred    Posted 10-24-2004 at 20:36:07       [Reply]  [No Email]
Each state has two senators, regardless of population or size. In addition, each state has 1 or more representatives, I believe its one for each 300,000 population. The electoral college has one elector for each of the senators and representatives from each state, and the electors are chosen in accordance with state law. In almost all states, the electors are chosen in a winner take all fashion from the popular vote in that state, i.e. if Washington state votes 53% for Kerry, ALL of the electors in Washington are for Kerry. The large states have a large number of electors, but the small states have a disproportionate number of electors (due to all states having two Senators). So a presidential election here is a complex strategy game, all in an attempt to get at least 270 electoral votes.

Hope that was clear enough, maybe reading it in the U.S. Constitution would be clearer. See Article II Section 1.


Les    Posted 10-24-2004 at 20:27:49       [Reply]  [No Email]
The states are all assigned a number of electoral votes. That number is the total number of senators (every state has 2) and congressmen who represent that state in Congress. Here in NH we have 4 electoral votes as we have 2 senators and 2 congressmen. Each state has a number of congressmen (AKA representatives) according to its population. There are 435 congressmen.
Whichever candidate wins the state gets all the electoral votes for that state. (There may be an exception for Maine but we'll not deal with that now.) There are a total of 535 electoral votes. It takes 270 (I think I'm right here) to be elected president by the electoral college.


Jet9N    Posted 10-25-2004 at 08:19:23       [Reply]  [No Email]
Les, good explanation, but there are 538 electoral
votes. District of Columbia has 3 in addition to
the 535 the states have. Hence 538/2 = 269 plus
one to win.

Jet


big fred    Posted 10-24-2004 at 20:38:32       [Reply]  [No Email]
Maine, is it? I was thinking there were at least two states, maybe Colorado? that don't use the winner take all method.


Larry in CO    Posted 10-24-2004 at 22:12:59       [Reply]  [No Email]
Not yet for Colorado. It's on the ballot this year. Larry


ron,ar    Posted 10-24-2004 at 20:30:27       [Reply]  [No Email]
in other words...while the whole country is away at the polls, supposedly voting, a bunch of folks we don't know get together and elect someone else president:^)


toolman    Posted 10-24-2004 at 20:53:04       [Reply]  [No Email]
well that explains alot then thanks guys, now i see why they have these so called battle ground states that they each seem to have to win, quite different than us,thanks again, i,ll be able to follow it on the news better now.


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