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Raising Livestock for Market
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Peanut    Posted 10-26-2004 at 07:41:20       [Reply]  [No Email]
I am curious to hear what types of livestock you raise for market (or if you know someone who raises stock for market). Also, how is the market for the particular kind you raise?

Anyone raise alpacas, ostriches, llamas, etc? Do you know anyone who does?


Bkeepr    Posted 10-26-2004 at 10:02:51       [Reply]  [No Email]
Friend of mine at work started raising alpaccas this past year. I'm afraid it's going to be a disaster. He has spent incredible money on these things--average females run like $20,0000--and I just don't see the market. It is like a pyramid scheme.

Goats and lambs for ethnic markets are doing pretty well around here. Not huge money, but not a big investment either. Have another friend here who raises rare breed sheep, and her culls go to market. Between wool for handspinners, breeders, and the culls she does ok.

I sell honey and eggs, turkeys and chickens for breeding stock. When there's a good crop, honey does well for us; eggs are reliable but won't make you rich. On the other hand, we get all the chicken and eggs we can eat.

take care,
Tom A


Peanut    Posted 10-26-2004 at 10:18:21       [Reply]  [No Email]
Tom - Are specific types of bees needed for certain types of honey? Or is it an environment (local pollen) kind of a thing. How much honey do you usually produce? Just curious. I have never had a chance to ask anyone who keeps bees. Sounds like a semi-risky thing to raise.


Bkeepr    Posted 10-26-2004 at 13:06:00       [Reply]  [No Email]
Hi Peanut:

Just like cows or horses, there are several breeds of bees, and they have different characteristics. Some are a little gentler, some produce more honey earlier in a season while others are better later.

But the kind or flavor of honey is solely dependent on the flowers that the nectar came from, not the bee. So honey made from tulip poplar trees in my area tends to be medium-dark, honey made from black locust or clover is very light.

Beekeeping got riskier in the last 5-10 years with some new pests that are killing bees. Our first 5 or 6 years beekeeping, we never lost a colony. Two years ago, we lost everything to varroa mites and had to buy new bees.

How much you get depends on the area you're in, as well as the season. On average, I get between 35-55 lbs of honey from each colony in a year. I have friends who this year got 360 pounds from 2 colonies, and 0 pounds from 2 others located elsewhere.

It is no riskier than any other kind of farming, though. It can be hot, heavy work. But it's a lot of fun too.

Tom


Texas    Posted 10-26-2004 at 07:53:32       [Reply]  [No Email]
A lot of folks fell for the ostrich/emu marketing gimic. Now all those $1000 dollar birds are free ranging...destroying fences, crops etc and generally get shot on sight. Beware these odd animal marketing ploys...unless you have a committed buyer.



Wow    Posted 10-26-2004 at 07:59:53       [Reply]  [No Email]
I thought that was a strong market. Guess not if they are used for target practice.

- Peanut


Texas    Posted 10-26-2004 at 08:03:31       [Reply]  [No Email]
People in Texas bought them, bred them then could find no market than would cover their costs. Eventually they got tired of feeding them and simply turned them out. Being as these birds cant fly, and having dang strong legs...when they come to a fence they stomp it down so they can pass. If they find a feeding station for cattle they rob it...and cattle dont like these critters.

So yes...they unfortunately are now considered pests and get shot on sight.


Ain't you got.....    Posted 10-26-2004 at 08:15:55       [Reply]  [No Email]
some of them PETA folks down there who kin put their money where their mouths are and round up them boids???


Clipper: who hasn't seen dem boids in Noo England....but we do has a lotta tree-huggers that git shot at. :^)


bob ny    Posted 10-26-2004 at 09:03:20       [Reply]  [No Email]
there ya go agin pickin on us treehuggers . i hugged many a tree( puttin a chain raoun them to pull them out of the woods.and huggin em agian
carryin them into the house to burn.
bob ( a real treehugger )ny


Now lookee....    Posted 10-26-2004 at 09:34:12       [Reply]  [No Email]
here Bob.....you knows I wuz talking bout dem wierdo's whuts like to git gropey an physical and sings lulabye's to dem trees!! Cuttin dem up fer toofpicks an such don't fall inta dat category of tree-huggers in no sech way.....now go back to dropping them rascals!! :^)

Clipper: who jest uses de thermostat ta crank up de heat:^)


Texas    Posted 10-26-2004 at 09:14:28       [Reply]  [No Email]
Bob now you know I was referring to those individuals that chain themselves to trees to save them :) Around here if you chain yourself to a tree we tell you to hang on...its gonna be a helluva ride!


Texas    Posted 10-26-2004 at 08:28:32       [Reply]  [No Email]
This being Texas...we dont get many PETA folks here. Oh we have the occasional granola and tree hugger but they find out real quick that we have a low tolerance for that stuff.

PETA = People Eating Tasty Animals :)



Willy-N    Posted 10-26-2004 at 08:13:28       [Reply]  [No Email]
I would love to find a bunch of them wanting to be caught! We made a Ostrich Jerkey for Dogs and it was selling great. Now we have a hard time getting it. We had it flown in at around 4-5.00 a pound and had it turned into Jerky. Now we are using Turky to make it plus our own Beef we raise. The Ostrich Jerky we could ship to Japan to sell but not the Turkey or beef! They don't concider it poultry but a different type of red meat. Mark H.


Texas    Posted 10-26-2004 at 08:31:19       [Reply]  [No Email]
Well Ive tried roping them...and I would advise against that...they can dang near out run a good horse and when you do manage to get a rope on them...they run down it at you. Thats when the rodeo starts as horses dont like em either.

Ill check around...if anyone has a group they want caught Ill let you know.


Alias    Posted 10-26-2004 at 08:13:15       [Reply]  [No Email]
So, all that hype about them being good to eat was just that. I always thought they were too tough looking to taste good. Of course, I've never tried eating any, so, I'd like to hear from someone that has.......gfp


Joel    Posted 10-26-2004 at 13:31:29       [Reply]  [No Email]
Tried some jerky once. Had a lot of beef in it too. Seems it would have been better if it had been all beef and no ostrich. I wouldn't pay good money for it. Especially when it is more expensive than beef, pork or chicken.


Willy-N    Posted 10-26-2004 at 08:15:29       [Reply]  [No Email]
I have eaten it befor. The steaks are flat tasting because of no fat in them. You have to cook it fast and season the heck out of it to make it taste good and not be tough. Mark H.


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