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Grove r    Posted 10-29-2004 at 18:10:06       [Reply]  [No Email]
Great day here today...tonight, there is one big ole chinook arch in the west, so, looks like another good one, if I can get the boys to help, we may get something done on the putting up the rafters, and strapping same. Got the two rolls of banding for wind bracing, fifteen hundred feet...don't realy need that much, but one roll was not quite enough. y'all have a good one, R.E.L.

toolman    Posted 10-29-2004 at 18:23:20       [Reply]  [No Email]
something cold went through here around five i was just finishing up a fence project, picking up all the old 2x6 when it hit but i just came in again now and cloudy but warm nice light breeze.what you use that banding for must be an alberta thing for wind is it, we strap our rafters with 2 x 4 sometimes 1x4, or just ply if we ain,t using tin and gonna shingle it.

Grove r    Posted 10-29-2004 at 18:48:41       [Reply]  [No Email]
Secound "Tornado Ally" here Ger, Fella I worked for last, just up the road a couple of miles, had his north shop wall sucked in against his brand new pickup...woulda colapsed the whole building if it weren't for the pickup. Being as how my shop is so high, I will use it for diagonal bracing between the six by uprights, and again in an "X" across the and a quarter wide by .031" banding with a tensile srength of fifty five hundred pounds, probably overkill, but I feel OK with it. Carpenter friend of mine uses three sixteenth aircraft cable for the same reason in the outdoor buildings he puts up, cheaper, just, when you figure in the clamps and everything, but, with banding, one can sheat over it with most anything with no problem, because it is so thin...not with the cable.....this does not take the place of the truss rafters, or beams, tho I do use heavyer cable when fabricating beams for the extra carying capacity...will do this for the outward beam on the mezanine, which will be thirty feet long with no mid way to floor supports....four two by tens, laminated, with a five eights cable between them and supported at one third intervals on the bottom and secured at the top on the ends with one turnbuckle or eye bolt, for tensioning. have a gooder, R.E.L.

toolman    Posted 10-29-2004 at 18:55:30       [Reply]  [No Email]
ok i see what your doing now , i figgered it must of been a wind thing, i just might have to move up there afterall, when did you say that shop will be finished lol.could you put a couple buckets of snow on the floor just to make it feel homey.

Willy-N    Posted 10-29-2004 at 18:12:58       [Reply]  [No Email]
You can never have to much, but when you have to little it is like not having none at all. Something is blowing in here to from the north. Should have snow soon. Mark H.

Grove r    Posted 10-29-2004 at 18:21:10       [Reply]  [No Email]
Hi Mark, yes you are right on that, realy hate running out of the other day...was puting up the two by tens for the top plate, using six inch ring nails with quarter inch flat washers for extra holding power...had near three pounds of washers...wouldn't ya know it? ran out of washers when we had only two braces and two two by tens to go!!!

Don't know where the snow is comming from...unless it's gonna sneak in tonight sometime...sure hope not....have good one, R.E.L.

Ron/PA    Posted 10-29-2004 at 18:39:14       [Reply]  [No Email]
Are you going to get it under roof before the snow flies for good?
Glad you're getting workin weather. Have fun

Willy-N    Posted 10-29-2004 at 18:35:00       [Reply]  [No Email]
Those washers work good! Sometimes I pre drill a little undersized so the larger nail won't split the wood but they sure hold good. The big spikes drive in and hold better if there is a tight fit with out a split on 2 sides of the spike due to the grain of the wood. Mark H.

Grove r    Posted 10-29-2004 at 19:00:53       [Reply]  [No Email]
Hi, Ron....kinda went out on a limb with one of my bros freinds awhile back, said I wanted to get the roof on this fall...he scoffed at the idea, so i asked how much money he wanted to put on it...luckily, he backed down, but now am commited....DANG!!!

Mark, these ring nails arn't much bigger than the regular four inch coated nails, but, they are steel, not iron...can't bend one over, it will break, but the holding power of the anular rings is phenominal...not like ardox..old mother nature can pull them just like regular nails... the only thing good/bad about them is, one has a hard time pulling them out because you can't twist and pull....they certainly don't hold any better than regular nails! have a gooder, R.E.L.

toolman    Posted 10-29-2004 at 18:26:43       [Reply]  [No Email]
callin for a 60% chance here tomorrow,wife gets on me for saving bent (used nails) i just throw them in a 5 gal.pail, when im in the middle of something i usually run out of what i need and have to run to town, my pail has nearly everything in it now not just nails so its usually good for most things i run low on.

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