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We Bushies are dumber than I thought.
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Cletus    Posted 11-07-2004 at 08:55:26       [Reply]  [No Email]
State Avg. IQ 2004
1 Connecticut 113 Kerry
2 Massachusetts 111 Kerry
3 New Jersey 111 Kerry
4 New York 109 Kerry
5 Rhode Island 107 Kerry
6 Hawaii 106 Kerry
7 Maryland 105 Kerry
8 New Hampshire 105 Kerry
9 Illinois 104 Kerry
10 Delaware 103 Kerry
11 Minnesota 102 Kerry
12 Vermont 102 Kerry
13 Washington 102 Kerry
14 California 101 Kerry
15 Pennsylvania 101 Kerry
16 Maine 100 Kerry
17 Virginia 100 Bush
18 Wisconsin 100 Kerry
19 Colorado 99 Bush
20 Iowa 99 Bush
21 Michigan 99 Kerry
22 Nevada 99 Bush
23 Ohio 99 Bush
24 Oregon 99 Kerry
25 Alaska 98 Bush
26 Florida 98 Bush
27 Missouri 98 Bush
28 Kansas 96 Bush
29 Nebraska 95 Bush
30 Arizona 94 Bush
31 Indiana 94 Bush
32 Tennessee 94 Bush
33 North Carolina 93 Bush
34 West Virginia 93 Bush
35 Arkansas 92 Bush
36 Georgia 92 Bush
37 Kentucky 92 Bush
38 New Mexico 92 Bush
39 North Dakota 92 Bush
40 Texas 92 Bush
41 Alabama 90 Bush
42 Louisiana 90 Bush
43 Montana 90 Bush
44 Oklahoma 90 Bush
45 South Dakota 90 Bush
46 South Carolina 89 Bush
47 Wyoming 89 Bush
48 Idaho 87 Bush
49 Utah 87 Bush
50 Mississippi 85 Bush

The IQ numbers were originally attributed to the book "IQ and the Wealth of Nations", though they do not appear in the current edition. The tests and data were administered via the Raven's APT, and the The Test Agency, one of the UK's leading publishers and distributors of psychometric tests. This data has been published in the Economist and the St. Petersburg Times, though this does not mean it should be taken as fact. Though the data does correlate somewhat to IQ of students per state based on SAT/ACT data, though this would be biased for those that had completed a high school education. Someone has also taken 2000 census data on percentage of state residents that have earned a college degree and used that to compare the voting in the 2000 election, it's funny, but that seems to correlate as well.


Dug    Posted 11-07-2004 at 20:23:09       [Reply]  [Send Email]
I find fault with your statistics. Arkansas is listed at 35th in the nation! We all know better than that!!!

Dug


rayinmo    Posted 11-07-2004 at 18:15:29       [Reply]  [No Email]
Tell us please just why was Wash. ,Dc left off this list, cmon, cmon,waiting!!!


PDB    Posted 11-07-2004 at 13:02:23       [Reply]  [No Email]
I may be dumb(I'm from Missouri) but I can figure out that President Bush received 12 Million more votes than clinton did in 1996 when he was re-elected making Bush much more popular than clinton ever was.

Kerry/Edwards 2004 - Rejected not Elected


Quint    Posted 11-07-2004 at 11:03:16       [Reply]  [No Email]
What is really striking is looking at the county by county maps. There is a rather disturbing rural vs. urban split. You see very few "red" urban areas (outside the suburbs) and you see very few "blue" rural areas. It doesn't take much imagination to envision some horrific political/social scenarios happening if a serious issue crops up. One can see the seeds of a serious national upheaval if something isn't done about it. Revolutions and civil wars have started over much less.

Makes one incredibly thankful for the incredible foresight and wisdom of our founding fathers when they instituted the electoral college.

Oh to have men of that caliber around today.


Les    Posted 11-07-2004 at 11:58:23       [Reply]  [No Email]
Makes one incredibly thankful for the incredible foresight and wisdom of our founding fathers when they instituted the electoral college.
Man, if that ain't the truth, Quint. Hear, Hear!


Les    Posted 11-07-2004 at 10:43:40       [Reply]  [No Email]
Did you also notice that all those states at the top of the list are also among the poorest (CT, MA, NJ, NY, etc.)? If all those ignorant states down near the bottom would have only voted for Kerry, they'd soon all be rich like the ones at the top.
That's how it works, right? Maybe they ain't as stupid as the dimlycrats would have us believe.


RN    Posted 11-07-2004 at 16:45:14       [Reply]  [No Email]
Violent crime stats from a month back during election- Dems area 6.2 violent crimes per 100,000 population, Rep 4.4 per 100,000. Guns/Concealed Carry allowed- Dems area restrictive, Republican areas much less restrictive on purchase and carry. Republicans trust people to be armed and reduce crime- people respond by trusting Republicans. Democrats don't trust people, have high crime rate- some people don't trust Democrats. IQ quotes- whats percent of populace tested? By who? What is political motive/ relation to publishing figure? Another Dem spin? RN.


Alias    Posted 11-07-2004 at 11:24:36       [Reply]  [No Email]
Sean Hannidy on Fox presented a county by county map that showed the states that went blue during the election were in fact red. The blue counties and subdivision were in the most heavily populated areas. What that tells me is, even in the blue states, rural people tend to be republican. Now, as an example, Washington DC voted 90 percent to 10 percent in favor of Kerry.

Now, it goes against human nature for there to be such a division. National average showed the ratio to vary state to state but only in DC was the point spread that great.....gfp


Rickstir    Posted 11-08-2004 at 11:06:23       [Reply]  [No Email]
Nothing racial here, and don't tried to read it in, but Washington D.C. is 95% black. That is just the facts. It is also fact that for some reason, 90% of blacks vote democratic. No plausible explaination of it, as the democrats haven't really done anthing much for the blacks except for entitilement programs. An interesting stat from the last election was that 40% of Hispanics voted republican. The "expert" being interview said it was because Hispanics expect more for their vote.


Les    Posted 11-07-2004 at 11:55:40       [Reply]  [No Email]
Something else, Alias: I believe those 2 states at the top of the list are also just about the most heavily taxed. You couldn't pay me enough to live in CT, RI and most of MA.
Maine and VT are also very highly taxed and NH is near the bottom of that list. That must mean that Maine and VT are much better off than we are here in NH, right? Not hardly. NH is always at or near the top of the "Most Liveable" list.


ron,ar    Posted 11-07-2004 at 12:05:43       [Reply]  [No Email]
"Not hardly. NH is always at or near the top of the "Most Liveable" list."
Maybe that is why Kerry lives in Mass but is a member of the American Legion in New Hampshire?
ron,ar-now with schools:^)


Les    Posted 11-07-2004 at 15:53:12       [Reply]  [No Email]
Yeah, I noticed that about Kerry belonging to the Legion post in Salem. There must be a story behind that. (Maybe his local post was "dry". We have quite a few members who live much closer to other posts but choose to belong to ours. Ours is definitely not dry!)
Did you read it in the Legion Magazine? I also didn't know that he was born in Denver.


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