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Milk???
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KatG    Posted 11-10-2004 at 18:18:36       [Reply]  [Send Email]
Probably as ya'll know we have Jersey cows and milk one everyday...wonderful milk and cream...We are very clean with our milking and handling it...Lots of our friends drink it but my brother is afraid to drink it...Would you not drink fresh milk if you knew the cow to be healthy and have no diseases??? Just wondering...KAtG


j    Posted 11-11-2004 at 08:25:56       [Reply]  [No Email]
It's just like consuming anything raw...
You could probably get away with eating raw meat without getting sick.....but there could be that one bit a raw hamburger loaded with e-coli. Just like not wearing a seatbelt...you'll PROBABLY be ok!


bulldinkie    Posted 11-11-2004 at 04:35:14       [Reply]  [Send Email]
I always did drink alot of milk but here in town near us a few years ago some people were stopping at this farm for raw milk .quite a few got sick.The state came in and stopped them from selling raw milk.no I wouldnt I like the horizon, The cows take nothing ,no drugs,harmones etc.


Bkeepr    Posted 11-11-2004 at 04:18:17       [Reply]  [No Email]
We drank our fresh goat milk for years. At first we pasteurized, but later on we stopped that and drank it "raw." Never had a problem.

But I would never have given or sold "raw" milk to anybody outside the family because it'd be hard to defend against any claims of problems.

I have a friend who grew up on a dairy farm in the 30s and 40s who insisted I was crazy to let my family drink the "raw" milk. He said one thing his folks insisted on at their farm was pasteurizing their milk to prevent disease. He's a smart guy, so maybe he is right but, like I said, my animals were healthy and we loved the milk so we drank it that way.

Tom A


Texas    Posted 11-11-2004 at 04:01:43       [Reply]  [No Email]
We raise beef cattle but always had a milk cow on the place to take any calves the mommas quit. Ive drank many a gallon of fresh cows milk and even goats milk. There is no problem with it.


Salmoneye    Posted 11-11-2004 at 03:29:11       [Reply]  [No Email]
Your brother is nuts...

;-)


KatG    Posted 11-11-2004 at 16:26:19       [Reply]  [Send Email]
Thank you!!!!
I agreee totally..lol...KAtG


Donna from Mo    Posted 11-11-2004 at 02:01:54       [Reply]  [No Email]
Any time I brought a new cow onto the place I had her bangs and TB tested. Once she showed negative on those, we drank the milk without pasturization, and had no qualms about it. I'll do the same again if I ever buy my "retirement Jersey cow".


Dell (WA)    Posted 11-11-2004 at 01:36:34       [Reply]  [Send Email]
Kat.........yer brother don't know what he's missin'!!! So many of our children think milk comes in square cartons, eggs come in divided boxes, meat is plastic wrapped, and bread is sliced. Ever wonder where the nuggets grow on a chicken? Me too.

I have several dairy friends with 400+ Holstiens and a family Jersey for the kitchen. To heck with a beer, glass of cold whole jersey milk, yummy.

I also have numerous cattle rancher friends that won't eat their own beef, but they'll "trade" with their neighbor down the road and butcher and eat someone elses cow. Claim they can't stand to eat a family member. Weird, huh?........Dell the ol'sheepherder, who eats his own lamb 'cuz its good


deadcarp    Posted 11-10-2004 at 21:31:46       [Reply]  [No Email]
drink fresh milk? oh sure - matter of fact i think if a person raises something, he has the right to hang a sign out and sell all he wants to whoever wants it. pasteurization(glorified heat) is another indiscriminate killer- it kills things that are good for ya too. the standing law already is "let the buyer beware". the rest of the laws are twisted by industries.

far as clean is concerned, cleanliness is over-rated. the u of m did a twin-calf study years ago, and the ones allowed to grow up in "normal" conditions were invariably healthier and gained more weight than their sanitary sisters.

let me just clarify my position on clean. i'm not nor do i mean to be unclean. but our ama has its head deep in the sand of treating symptoms, and i'm afraid our society has strapped on those blinders with them. the truth is out there for anybody who wants to see things clearly. and the trth is - our bodies are virtually hosts for millions of colonies of little organisms, they try to thrive inside and outside us. i can't stress too highly that most of them are beneficial.
so here's the world's approach: someting bad is identified so we figure out a way to kill it. good plan but trouble is, by using alcohol or heat or something routine, we're killing everything. now if we used herbs or pepper or something that discrinated, we'd be better off. you know what a swig of antacid does? it sends a signal to your stomach that we're experiencing a severe shortage of acid over here! is that the message you want to send? why do you think doctors have such a short lifespan? cuz their practices are worse for a person than yours are, that's why.


Dale    Posted 11-10-2004 at 20:09:25       [Reply]  [No Email]
I drink it, but milking 80 cows and being exposed to milk, manure, saliva etc. every day it probably wouldn't make a difference if I drink it or not, I'm still exposed. I wouldn't advise anybody not living on a dairy farm to drink it raw.
Whether or not the cows are clean doesn't make any difference. The real nasties like brucellosis and salmonella don't care if the cows are clean or not, and while pasteurization doesn't eliminate Johne's, it seems to at least reduce exposure. And "knowing" that the cows are healthy and don't have diseases is a ridiculous claim, by the time symptoms show up it's too late.


Maggie/TX    Posted 11-10-2004 at 19:46:21       [Reply]  [No Email]
Kat, if you've been drinking it and you say it is good, and I know you are not sick, I don't see why not. Although I was born and raised in the city, I think it is much more natural to drink it straight from a cow you KNOW is clean than to drink it from the store and you don't know where it came from! Tell your brother he's a wus....., tell him he doesn't have a hair on his....tell him I dare him. LOL!


KatG    Posted 11-11-2004 at 16:30:12       [Reply]  [Send Email]
He is a wus and kitty whipped also..lol...KatG


Hawk    Posted 11-10-2004 at 19:23:00       [Reply]  [No Email]
i would drink it, no problem. i was raised on local dairy milk, big gallon jug where you had to pour the cream off the top to get the milk that actually had flovor. good times!


Mike Ga    Posted 11-10-2004 at 19:20:25       [Reply]  [No Email]
I would say its safer than the milk you buy in the stores. I was raised on it as was the rest of my family. I get my eggs from my chickens and not many people will eat them. They would rather have the store bought ones. I think to many people have thier minds mixed up as all our ancestors were raised on home grown eggs, milk and what ever they grew. I wish you lived close to me so I could buy some as no one near me sells it anymore. I'm sure its not laced with all that junk dairys give thier cows to give more milk.


KatG    Posted 11-11-2004 at 16:32:07       [Reply]  [Send Email]
I got 8 gal. in the fridge right now...cream 2 inches thick,,,come and get it if ever this way...KAtG


Steve from TN    Posted 11-10-2004 at 19:03:42       [Reply]  [No Email]
We drank it every day and were probably among the healthiest kids in the county. We strained the flies out, cooled it, and drank it. We mixed it with Hershey's cocoa and sugar and fussed if we didn't get it for supper.


Betty    Posted 11-10-2004 at 19:21:42       [Reply]  [Send Email]
I would give anything to have some good fresh milk without all the hormones etc


Bill WI    Posted 11-10-2004 at 19:01:35       [Reply]  [Send Email]
Hi, The worry is brucelosis (?spelling) Look it up for Unduland Fever? Again Spelling) We always drank it unpasturized and lost most of a herd of cows to it. Pasturized for a couple weeks. We were probably lucky, so won't advise to or not to. Just our experience. I think when you are used to it your imune system fights off a lot. We always warned people and that was 25 yrs ago. Now I'm supposed to drink skim and don't drink much milk anymore. Sure like aged cheddar and brick, but it tastes good so I'm not to have it. lol. I'd say in todays world tell them what it is and don't push it. Bill


Les    Posted 11-10-2004 at 18:38:36       [Reply]  [No Email]
We were raised on raw milk. Mom said that when we were babies, the doctor about fainted dead away when she told him what she was feeding us. Never seemed to hurt us none.
Probly most kids would think it was gross to actually have cream on top of the milk. They probably wouldn't even know what whole milk was, to say nothing of whole raw milk since they're only used to that watery stuff that we used to feed the hogs.


tina    Posted 11-10-2004 at 18:37:59       [Reply]  [No Email]
Be sneaky about it. When I was a kid, my Mom had a whole herd of milkgoats, but I refused to drink a drop, simply because it came from the goat. I was very young and very stupid. So she got sneaky with me. Started mixing the store milk and the goat milk, one glass at a time. And once I had been drinking straight goat milk for some time, she told me what she had done. Never hurt me one bit.


Dave Munson    Posted 11-10-2004 at 19:06:43       [Reply]  [No Email]
Grandma made good pancakes with it (fresh goats milk).


Willy-N    Posted 11-10-2004 at 18:27:58       [Reply]  [No Email]
I don't drink milk just don't realy like it anymore. Drank a lot of it as a kid tho. Mark H.


dig    Posted 11-10-2004 at 23:14:32       [Reply]  [No Email]
I'm with you Mark. I call it "white water" because that's about all the flavor it has.


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