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Mens' outstanding characteristcs
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deadcarp    Posted 11-13-2004 at 16:02:19       [Reply]  [No Email]
men are traditionally known as horndogs but i dispute that, and to our benefit i think we're more lazy than anything else. as attractive as girls are, they take an immediate backseat to something more interesting. properly motivated and in the right department, that can even be a job. nobody wants to work all day and go tell the family they had a worthless day.

for years i only hired lazy people, cuz they abhorred work enough to find shortcuts, worked faster to get it done and that moved the company forward. oh we inherited a few career-minded plowhorses but it started showing after a couple weeks so they didn't last the month, this just wasn't where their motivation resided. thanks to those shortcuts we all went home and retired earlier.



Les    Posted 11-13-2004 at 21:29:42       [Reply]  [No Email]
deadcarp, when I joined the National Guard many years after I had gotten out of the Marines, the first thing I noticed was how old everyone was. You sure weren't going to see a 45 year old captain or corporal in the regular service!
Another thing I soon came to realize was how the men would "modify" things to make their jobs easier.
A few years after I joined the unit, they took the old "pigs" (M114 howitzers) away and gave us the new M198s. Even though they were much bigger, we soon appreciated how much easier they were to handle and especially at night. No batteries to go dead right in the middle of a firing mission.
Anyway, we ended up wiring those things up so that everything could be carried right on the trails. Stuff was computerized and we built boxes and stuff like that to make the whole system work better. Pretty soon, the whole battalion was doing the same thing.
Those were things we never would have dreamed of doing on active duty. I hear stories about how the Guard and Reserve units that are now in Iraq have devised all kinds of things to make life better for themselves. Of course, since they are older and have many and various occupations in the civilian world, they bring those skills (plumbing, carpentry, etc.) with them and use their talents to the betterment of all.
I thoroughly enjoyed my National Guard service. I would much rather have to go fight a war with friends, neighbors, co-workers and even relatives at my side than with total strangers as in the active service.


Fern(Mi)    Posted 11-13-2004 at 17:32:19       [Reply]  [No Email]
Ain't nobody lazier than I am. Get at it. Get it done. Get it over.
Do the easiest part first, working it on down and its done. The hardest part last wasn't so tough after all!
If there's an easier way, I'll find it.

Used to watch my old man build houses. His motto: Anything ya can do laying down saves a hand. He'd build an outside wall of a house with the windows and door jambs install and the siding on. When they stood that wall up it was near finished. His five man crew roughed in a new house every three and one half days. It was almost like watching a ballet.
Fernan


deadcarp    Posted 11-13-2004 at 19:37:42       [Reply]  [No Email]
yeah you're on the right track fern. you know, i dragged a huge lie around for years. i thought of myself as being a gungho, hard-working sob and i was beating myself into the ground. then i began to straighten my head out. i'd been a lazy teenager, when did that change? well, truth was it hadn't! and the minute i admittted my true character, things got better. now by the time i get both feet on the floor i'm smiling, cuz i've already won 2 battles. and heck by the time i'm dressed & breakfast's done, how could they possibly stop me now? i've demonstrated remarkable control of this ship, have awarded myself the credit to prove it, and there ain't no doubt he's gonna behave today! look at that lazy baster go! eehaw!!!!


Clod    Posted 11-13-2004 at 17:23:10       [Reply]  [No Email]
Im thinking about this,,I have noticed lazy people often tend to advise others . Maybe basicly the lazy want to supervise rather than get dirty. Most often they dress cleaner and remain clean all day. Rather than go pick up something they will ask others to do these things for them and avoid strenious activity, In time the lazy begin to be associated with the word foreman or superintendent.When they actually get such a position the lazy will cause the others to work harder than they ever have before.The lazy often take credit for others achievements. But often some who are refered to as lazy are not all lazy.These types are actually just effective. Lightning is a very powerful force. But even lightning takes the path of least resistance as does a hurricane.


deadcarp    Posted 11-13-2004 at 18:08:18       [Reply]  [No Email]
there's an old saying, "if you can't do the job, supervise. and if you can't even supervise, inspect." well cute as that may be, there's some truth in it. my last job i was titled "senior quality engineer" on an american/australian f-18 co-production project. see, when we sell aircaft to a foreign power tey get perks like pilot/mechanic training, free engines for 5 years, and a percentage of the jobs. this sweetens the pot for the foreign taxpayer and gives the incumbent politicians some benefit to point to. in this case prime minister bob hawke could brag about creating 1200 jobs at hawker dehavilland. well my prime function was to overhaul/simplify their inspection procedures. althuogh lots of things were being done right, they were still plugging along with obsolete ship-building inspection methods. so the aim was to put responsibility/credit for quality back in the hands of the tradesman where it belonged instead of making the inspector the scapegoat.
so instead of driving a row of rivets, then submitting something for inspection, the guys were free to build a whole access door fo example, then inspection would clamp it into an assembly fixture, run a go-no go guage round the whole ting AND check for any bad rivets or such. i was there 3 years and by that time we'd halved the number of inspectors, freed up 40-some tradesmen to build airplanes again, and the overall quality was better. me? i was usually at the airbase, watching the static runups where they'd strap a new f18 down in a hangar and remotely power it up. why? they didn't need some foreigner looking over their shoulder all day, runups could get exciting and besides i'm lazy. darn right! :)
btw, all austraian and canadian f18s have tailhooks for carrier landings. but neither country has carriers capable of handling an f18. another u.s. strategic reserve. :)


Clod    Posted 11-13-2004 at 18:23:42       [Reply]  [No Email]
Yes,I think the business got top heavy with supervision positions.Too many chiefs and not enough indians. Anyhow ,I worked on Hueys awhile as a civilian .There was a lot of crazy things going on.These Hueys were returns from Vietnam. We had both good and bad technitions.The best were returneees from Vietnam who knew the choppers well.But some others were trained so there would be jobs for all citizen. The best thing happens when Army combat pilots check out the machines. They get up real high and dive at the hangar.This wakes up a few who had thought his job was not so important.


deadcarp    Posted 11-13-2004 at 19:06:29       [Reply]  [No Email]
yep nothing gets a mechanic's attention like testing his survival instincts. "don't make me any difference, you're taking the thing around the block." :)
i'll never forget the biggest blunder boeing made on the 727. we lost our best guinea pig with that one. they were test flying the "canary" prototype and for some reason weren't getting enough thrust outa the center engine. it tended to fly nose-high. we'd gone over specs, chased it with cameras, taped yarn all over and whatnot - neutralize the tabs and there she went again. scott crossfield was chief test pilot and he was tearing his hair out. finally we discovered that in the 3 years it had taken to get the canary airborne, rolls-royce had ugraded the powerplants.well really everybody knew that, i fact one of the original mills was already in an aluminum boeing hydroplane hull, scooting around lake washington. well the new engins bolted into the existing holes alright, but they were 1000 pounds heavier than the old ones! and we had 3 of them hanging in the tail! crossfield took off his sunglasses, nodded to the guys, politely said "gentlemen", jumped in his mercedes and left boeing for good that day. i think he went to hughes. what was the remedy? in a week a whole hangar of us had changed the center air intake from round to a horizontal "d"shaped. after 40 years it's still that way.:)


deadcarp-correction    Posted 11-14-2004 at 03:57:46       [Reply]  [No Email]
i've had a few old salts send me modern pictures of 727s and looks like boeing went back to round air intakes on their empennage. well good for them. but now correct me if i'm wrong but it also looks like the outboard engines are now noticeably tilted upward! (top of nacelle should be level with the fuselage) aw cmon engineers, now why would that be? only excuse i can imagine is the silly ship's still tail heavy!
well duh - wouldn't the obvious solution be to move the dam wing back and locate the ctr of lift under the ctr of gravity? you know - like an airplane? i would hasten to add that the 727 has an excellent safety record and no i'm not crazy about lawsuits but i don't suppose anybody ever announced any performance-robbing design flaws to the paying passengers. aw what the heck - i've made bigger waves on smaller ships - take a look for yourself. heh heh


Clod    Posted 11-13-2004 at 19:28:03       [Reply]  [No Email]
That was a very interesting story DC,Thanks for telling that,I enjoyed it.


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