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Pigs for muslim terrorists
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TNT    Posted 11-19-2004 at 15:24:42       [Reply]  [Send Email]
General John "Black Jack" persing executed a number of Muslim men after slaughtering hogs where the soon to be executed men could see, he had the firing squad dip the cartridges in the pig blood then shoot all but one. Then he had the executed buried with with the slaughtered hogs. The one left went back and told the others. we never had a Muslim problem for 50+ years. Time to start buring the bodys of the suicide bombers with a pig. The word will get around soon enough. Hat's off to the Marine who was video taped protecting his life and his buddys life doing the job his country sent him to do. Oh yes, BTW, I'm a Viet Nam vet. Willaim Calley, where are you when we need you? Like the Green Beret's motto, Kill Em All and let God sort em out.


John Thorogood    Posted 06-27-2006 at 10:08:08       [Reply]  [No Email]
Your enemy will come to you in many forms. It is up to us to know our enemy and defeat them in a way that will desolve their desire to do us harm. The Romans had this down pat and so must we if we are to survive. Beware the hordes are gathering and in each passing day they grow stronger.


SusieQ    Posted 11-20-2004 at 03:44:43       [Reply]  [No Email]
Well, I agree with you here, war is war, our troops are there, and they are cleaning/clearing the riff raff out, when shot at, our troops shoot back. I hope this marine is ok, and no charges brought against him....if so, lets round up all our senators, congressmen/women and other political PERSONS...and draft them, stick a gun in their hands and see how well they all handle this WAR.


toolman    Posted 11-19-2004 at 17:36:18       [Reply]  [No Email]
black jack sounds like a cool guy , i often wonder how things would be in iraq if stormin norman was leading things over there, seems to have done a good job first time around, just too bad he wasn,t allowed to finish it then.


Mike in tn    Posted 11-19-2004 at 16:50:13       [Reply]  [No Email]
Well if it worked before, let's try it again. I can not believe that some people think that we should try to negociate with these people. They evidently don't know that they wish that we were all dead, and don't think that it is wrong to kill us because of our Christian beliefs. It never amazes me how stupid some Americans are.
Mike


donna in w.v    Posted 11-19-2004 at 16:16:20       [Reply]  [Send Email]
It is sad but I have to agree with you. Sometimes desperate times demand desperate measures.


Zenia    Posted 11-19-2004 at 15:38:54       [Reply]  [No Email]
Sorry but that is just sick. William Calley was an ice cold murderer of unarmed old men, innocent women, children and babies.


Dave 2N    Posted 11-20-2004 at 03:33:03       [Reply]  [Send Email]
Wake up to what this country is facing! Will it take a terrorist act next door before you "feel gooders" wise up to what is going on?


Sid    Posted 11-19-2004 at 16:41:59       [Reply]  [No Email]
Nothing sick about that. Believe it or not Evil people do exist in this world and sometimes that is the only way to deal with them. Wickedness and evil can not be tolerated they must be destroyed.


Hoss    Posted 11-19-2004 at 16:05:01       [Reply]  [Send Email]
Zenia,Were you there?


Old Sarge    Posted 11-19-2004 at 16:22:36       [Reply]  [No Email]
Hoss
I don't know if Zennia was there.

1st tour April 58- Sept 59 when we weren't there. Apr 67-May 68, Jul 68-Aug 69, Oct 69-Dec 70.

Total of 54 months + a few days.


Hoss    Posted 11-19-2004 at 20:40:42       [Reply]  [Send Email]
Sarge,D Co.158 Aviation Btn. 101 Airborn Div. Northern I Corps


Old Sarge    Posted 11-19-2004 at 16:04:03       [Reply]  [Send Email]
I vehemently disagree.
Calley was a SCAPEGOAT who had to take the blame for Captain Medina and all others all the way up the line, clear to the top brass who declared it a "free fire zone"

This from one who BTDT.

54 years of active and retired service.


Zenia    Posted 11-19-2004 at 20:11:48       [Reply]  [No Email]

Sorry. I stand corrected. Calley was a scapegoat, then. He got off, anyway. But I don't think anyone denies that My Lai occured.

No I was not there, I was a little girl wearing fashionable tire tread sandals and a tie dyed T-shirt, long suede belt with beads, inhaling tear gas on my way home from school and watching the ashes fall.

I know plenty of folks who were in Nam. I cut short a date with a veteran once, when I saw a photo of him and his army pals standing around smiling next to the swollen head of a VC on a post. He had it on his bulliten board, right along with his family photos. Another very dear friend of mine opened up about his experiences, but only after I had known him for many years.

My brother is a Colonel, he is too young to have been there. He was in Kuwait during the Gulf conflict, and he will be in Iraq for Christmas, his third trip over there. I have tremendous respect, and am eternally grateful for our military men and women but I am not naive, and I despise the atrocities of war. And yet, I cannot begin to put myself in the shoes of a soldier, I don't pretend to.

Yes I know evil, pure evil exists and I have had the mixed misfortune in my life of staring it straight in the face, up close and personal. But no way a two year old baby is evil, and those people did not deserve to be thrown in a ditch and mowed down.

Besides, regarding the Muslim terrorists, what did those pigs ever do to anyone? LOL. I was not disagreeing with that part so much. But I am saddened to the core by the death or permanent disabilities suffered by innocent children because of war. Bury those men with pigs if you want but not innocent babies and innocent women. Yeah, I know civilians are going to get killed "collaterally" but to intentionally kill innocents is just wrong. Guess I just over-reacted to the mention of calling out Wm. Calley, scapegoat or not most people associate My Lai with the machine gunning down of women and children, not terrorist or enemy soldiers.



RN    Posted 11-19-2004 at 20:57:00       [Reply]  [No Email]
Intentionally kill innocents? A moment to think of twin towers, then think of what the Isrealis have endured the past couple years- suicide bombers on bus, in shopping malls, bombs in baby buggies with baby still in it, cafes, theatres. Iraq area noted to have booby trapped bodies. Spanish trains? Who is targeting innocents? Viet Cong known to booby trap babies also.RN.


Zenia    Posted 11-19-2004 at 21:07:55       [Reply]  [No Email]
I agree, wholeheartedly, the killing of innocents, especially the babies and little children is purely evil. I will never understand it, I cannot put myself in the shoes or the mind of someone who would do such a thing. I do not believe in the Islamic law of an eye for an eye, either.


RN    Posted 11-19-2004 at 21:16:19       [Reply]  [No Email]
Give Islam a small benefit of doubt- Blame Marxist/Leninists in baathist party for some of the actions. RN


Zenia    Posted 11-19-2004 at 21:27:01       [Reply]  [No Email]
I heard this great song on the radio the other day, I doubt even Lenore will have a copy since it was an obscure artist on NPR. The gist of it, was a woman singing "I am not afraid of your Allah, just afraid of the things you do in the name of your Allah." I am not against Islam, I really do not know enough about the religion. Religious fanatics of any stripe scare me.

Are the Baathists Marxist/ Lenninist?


RN    Posted 11-19-2004 at 21:48:15       [Reply]  [No Email]
Saddam's old political party took lessons from the russian 'communist/socialist' party. B'aath free translation has 'arab socialist' as name. So called 'sunni' area was home to Saddam's government workers, security people, republican gaurd officers- not particularly religious people. B'aathists pressured the Sunni Imans a bits, killed Shia mullahs, gassed Kurds who are nominally Sunni. Like the stalinists in WW2 who stopped killing priests because they needed religious manpower to defend the Rodina/Motherland (and shield the communist party a bit) the B'aathists are claiming religious affiliation and trying to convince(sometimes by killing their children) devout moslems to die for the politicians who were oppressing them earlier. The american Liberal Media people repeat some of the phrases from the fellow Socialists of Iraq to harrass Republicans who beat the american socialist/marxist/democrats this election. RN 11


toolman    Posted 11-19-2004 at 17:29:03       [Reply]  [No Email]
when people like old sarge speak we can take it as the truth as far as im concerned, he was there, did his job, i too belive LT.Calley was used as a scapegoat,we as civilians have no right to critizice these men until we walk in there boots, as for whats going on today , ive said it before if the media, the policitions and everybody got out of the way and let the fighting men an women do there job for which they are trained very well to do , they,ll get the job done and be home a whole lot sooner.these people are savages that they are fighting normal rules of war do not apply as far as they are concerned.


pigs?    Posted 11-19-2004 at 19:23:55       [Reply]  [No Email]
shucks, why would you disgrace a pig that way?

mud


Clod    Posted 11-19-2004 at 19:36:09       [Reply]  [No Email]
Innocent? Crazy! Communist use women and children as much as they use men to war against their opponents. You do not have to belive me.Just look up communist documentaries from the VC and North Vietnam. The women and children build the bobby traps and pungi stakes. The village you speak of has a monument to the communist "heroes" who lived there. Get your facts from folks other than Dan Rather the rich Marxist.


TnT    Posted 11-20-2004 at 06:35:40       [Reply]  [Send Email]
I didn't think so either until a 5 or 6 year old walked up to me at a bus stop in down town Nha Trang and tried to give me a grenade with the pin pulled. He had been sent by the VC. They wanted to keep the G.I's on he base for a while so the method was to kill a few of us with little kids. The base went into lock down and nthen they would set up Mortars on top of the USO building and shell the he!! out of us. Believe it!! It happens. Young men would rather blow them sleves up tha go to school and raise a family. People like Bin Laden use them as cannon fodder. You'll notice Bin Laden hasn't strapped an explosive belt to his gut.


Zenia    Posted 11-19-2004 at 20:19:40       [Reply]  [No Email]
You will never convince me a two year old is capable of being an enemy soldier.


Harrison    Posted 11-19-2004 at 20:59:26       [Reply]  [No Email]
If you weren't there to see the booby traps I guess you can sleep with a clear mind. But do not belittle the men who will not.The sacrifice was more of themselves than you can understand. "Semper Fidelis"


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