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Anyone else homeschool?
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Katrina    Posted 05-06-2002 at 09:45:47       [Reply]  [No Email]
Just thought I'd ask. Also, send any great advice on homeschooling. Been at it for 4 years but still can use any input that has worked for you. We found that it's more than a full-time commitment, but well worth it. Hope the kids agree when they are grown.


Mark Hendershot    Posted 05-07-2002 at 10:34:50       [Reply]  [No Email]
We don't home school but have thought about it. My education is not near as good as my 16 year old daughters is. I am lucky my wife was a straite A student so my daughter has someone to help with the studies. Shelby is a honor student and has been one just about all her life. We sent her to Monasory Scool for a couple of years and that realy helped. That was befor 1st grade. Living in a small town our school is pretty good. I sure would not send her to a school in LA Calif. nor would I live there! What you do at home with your kids makes a big differents on how they grow up. The more you work with them and make them take on responcibilits the better they turn out. I would not allow my daughter to hang out in town with the kids on the block nor dose she wantto. She has so many things to do at home it isn't nessarsy for her to do that to keep from being bored. I feel for kids who grow up in the citys and only have games to play or stand out on the corner for fun with the peer groups or go to the malls. My kid might be a country girl but she is a smart one. She has bought over 15 cows in 3 years and has paid for them out of what she earns. She can track where every pennie that has went into her animals and shows a profet at the end of the year too. She keeps good books on them and wants to be a rancher some day. Some people tell us that is stupid for her to waste here knowledge that way and should go to work in a big town and make the big bucks. She dosen't want to and her dream is coming true. The important part is being happy with what you do and then doing a good job doing it. I kind of live my life for her so she has a chance to make it in this world. She also has to do her part of the bargin and so far she has. Made a lot of work for me but what else is there to do that is as important as your kid being raised right. If you can give them a good education at home go for it. It is a lot of work but if you do it right they will turn out good. Mark H.


Katrina    Posted 05-07-2002 at 13:05:17       [Reply]  [No Email]
Mark- whatever you are doing with your daughter seems to be working out well. No matter what she eventually does with her life, you know that every little thing she learns now is beneficial some way or another. I'm sure you know some adults that can't manage their money or balance a checkbook. I know I do. Like you said, what you are doing is teaching her responsibility and confidence that she can do it. My goal is to have confident, happy, well-adjusted and intelligent children and be the same as adults. They sure are great kids.


Bill Grumbine    Posted 05-07-2002 at 08:15:56       [Reply]  [Send Email]
Hi Katrina

Good for you. We are finishing up our eighth year with our daughters. As long as you maintain the idea that it is your primary job (if you are the teacher), then you should do well. None of us is perfect, but if we invest the time to help our children grow, then we have done that which is the real job of parents - preparing our children for adulthood.

I'm a homeschool Dad - I'm the teacher. I put my career desires on hold to teach the kids, and now eight years later, I wouldn't have had it any other way. I am having a blast (even when we have those all day math sessions).

Bill


Redneck    Posted 05-07-2002 at 02:30:48       [Reply]  [No Email]
It starts at home with the quality of the parents.Home school is great but kids do need to see the real world but it don't take a government school for that.Most teachers want a easy pay check,some try but their hands are tied by beurcratic hogwash.

So much that should be taught in schools that ain't.(I never did like studying about some English guy in tights and a wig)Sort of like the saying "trying to talk prooper when he don't knew how."


Jackie    Posted 05-25-2004 at 14:19:35       [Reply]  [No Email]
I am in high school right now and let me just say that it has been the best 3 years of my life. I would much rather be in school then at home all day. You miss out on alot if your home schooled. No prom no senior trips. I won't be able to do it.


Is there a reason?    Posted 05-06-2002 at 20:15:09       [Reply]  [No Email]
Is there a reason you are homeschooling? Is there a problem with your local school or are you keeping your children home because someone has convinced you that this is the way you should do it? I believe that it is possible to give a child a good academic education at home--look who has won the last several national spelling bees--at least in the early years. But much a person learns in school has only a little to do with academics.

In my experience, many of the children who I have known who were home schooled were social misfits. They just did not know how to act and react among people. They just did not have the experience of dealing with the various things that come up in ordinary life. When they got out on their own, they had a real tough time.

Now it is possible to make sure that home schooled children get many chances to interact with other children, but again in my experience, this interaction tends to be with very select groups, usually religeously connected and usually only other home schooled kids. Not the real world.

I could see home schooling if the available public or private schools were just too bad, dangerous, expensive or far away. But if there is no good reason, I think you are really doing your children a tremendous disservice in preparing them for life. Which is what you are trying to do, isn't it?



Bill Grumbine    Posted 05-07-2002 at 08:10:37       [Reply]  [Send Email]
We have been homeschooling our three daughters for eight years now. We pulled the oldest two out of public school when they finished first and second grades respectively. We are also actively involved in a couple of different groups of homeschoolers, as well as with people from the “real world” (as anti-homeschoolers like to call it). We are somewhat unusual in that Dad (that’s me) is the teacher.

Whenever I see comments like those of Mr or Ms. “Is there a reason …” , I am immediately suspicious of that person and their real agenda. What kind of credibility can a person have who won’t even sign their name to a post? This isn’t even a regular handle here on the forum, although the possibility exists that this is a regular poster.

“Many of the children are social misfits” this person writes. What does that mean? My oldest daughter just turned 16, and the second is almost 15. They do not have multiple body piercings, tatoos, etc, so maybe that is what makes them misfits. They are not sleeping with the local boys yet. Maybe that is it? Good for them, eh? My children interact across the entire spectrum of society, from babies to seniors. They can actually engage in intelligent conversation instead of grunting at adults. They volunteer at our local retirement/nursing home, putting in roughly 14-18 hours a month. And, volunteer is the operative word. They had the idea, they were not forced into it by some community service program. The “normal” kids who are there have bad attitudes, and are clearly putting in their time only so they can fulfill their graduation requirements.

Kids interact with “highly select groups”. Darn right they do. It is our job to raise our children to be responsible, intelligent adults, not provide them with a front row seat to the losers and filth of humanity. Back in the 60s and 70s when I was a kid, my parents were highly selective of my friends too. They were concerned about who I was with and what I was doing. If more parents did this, there would be less juvenile crime, or at least less juvenile criminals.

As far as this not being the real world, where else in the real world is the public school model operative? Where else are people assigned to a peer group based solely on age? Where else are people subjected to indoctrination in a particular perspective every day for years on end? In this free (so far) country, we are not forced into associations. Most of the hazing, harassment, and abuse that children provide for one another on in the public schools would not be permitted in the regular workplace. In fact, the public school environment is about as far from the real world as one can get without leaving the planet.

My children spend (part of) their day with book learning. They also get practical application stuff, like how to clean a house, how to plan, shop for, and prepare meals. They learn and use the various machines and tools here on our very small homestead. They learn how to garden, and how to maintain buildings and equipment. They don’t come home from their “real world experience” and plug into a Game Boy or a TV set. We don’t know the names and the faces of all the current celebrities (although the kids know the names and faces of many prominent politicians).

I guess in the end, we are really misfits after all. And you know what? That is a good thing. Mr or Ms “Is there a reason …”, I think you need to get a real name, perhaps document your “findings” a little better, and maybe even educate yourself a little more. What you write isn’t even a little bit true about the vast majority of homeschoolers.

Bill


LinsMom    Posted 05-07-2002 at 08:38:37       [Reply]  [No Email]
Very good post!! Intelligent and well written :)


LinsMom    Posted 05-07-2002 at 05:05:11       [Reply]  [No Email]
Well obviously some of you are misinformed.
I knew the original HomeSchool post would bring
out those that are either jealous or just not
informed at all. If you think HomeSchoolers are
the only ones that turn out misfits you need
to do alot of research on the subject. Again,
I point to my sister well half sister and she
was in public school got envolved in drugs and
the last time I saw her she was in jail but those I know that have been HomeSchooled are either in college or leading very sucessful lives!
Which I know happens with alot of kids that have
gone to public school, too, so my point being
there are sucessful kids both ways!
Now, I do not go around being critical of my friends that have their kids in public school and I could if I wanted but I dont because simply put
alot of parents are doing what they feel is best for THEIR children! And what is best for one child might not be best for the another but its up to the parents to decide what is best not everyone else! HSLDA has done alot of research on the subject and found that most HomeSchooled children are better at socialization as they learn how to respect adults, too not just children. I could go on but I know for the most part there will always be those that want to stir up trouble over a parents right to educate their children how they see fit not how someone else sees fit. And I am NOT saying any of you would stir up trouble but I know alot would. Be ctitical of HomeSchoolers while violence soars at public schools, while there are more tragic deaths than ever with our precious youth of today occuring at public schools. I just dont think anyone that looks at the real world could be critical of anyone that does HomeSchool :)


Mama Bear    Posted 05-06-2002 at 16:30:43       [Reply]  [Send Email]
Hi Katrina,

I've been reading your comments about homeschooling. Sounds like you are a pro at it!
I'm Tyler's wife and we've homeschooled for a long time. One of the precious moments I remember was when our son, now married, took us to the Space Needle for dinner after his graduation. It wasn't cheap for him either! He wanted to say thank you for spending the time to homeschool him.

Sometimes you just want to quit and throw in the towel, but days like that give you the encouragement to keep at it. Our 6 yr. old will be in first grade this September so I'm starting over again with the homeschooling.

I think one of my favorite curriculums, that my children still remember at ages 22,21 and 17, was Konos. That is a hands-on curriculum and they loved it. They still talk about it!

Well, I could go on and on. Keep at it, your kids are worth every minute.

Email me anytime.


Ollie    Posted 05-06-2002 at 13:51:29       [Reply]  [No Email]
I admire those of you who are so committed.

I think the most important thing is that the parents are committed to the project. My SIL is "homeschooling" their kids. They thought it would be cheaper than sending them to public school.

The son is now 20. They had to find an out of state school to get his GED through. He was kicked out of the Navy because all he would do is play his GameBoy or watch cartoons on TV. He has been fired from the same job(boxboy/stocking) twice at a grocery store for not doing any work.

The daughter is 18 and a sophmore. She doesn't care if she get a diploma. She plans to marry a rich rancher (there's an oxymoron for you!).

The parents sadly, really don't care. It takes away from Mom's playtime. These kids have no sense of the real world. It's really sad. The school district here does no testing and can't do anything if the kids are falling behind. The 20 year old is pretty much a lost cause. Mom and Dad kicked him out and he is now bumming off of Grandma and Grandpa who don't want to cut the apron strings. He lies to them about being out looking for a job, gets caught at the lie, but nothing is done about it. We'd like to get hold of him for a few months, but I know that will never happen!

I've seen other home schooled kids who are very mature and responsible, but then they have parents who are involved with them.

We don't have any kids, just our ACDs (Australian Cattle Dogs). I applaud you who have the talent and commitment to homeschool.



LinsMom    Posted 05-06-2002 at 14:23:23       [Reply]  [No Email]
Its the same with public school some kids
do well and some drop out and dont care.
My sister who went to public school got in
drugs so bad that she ended up in jail.
So these kinds of things can happen whether
public or HomeSchooling. When parents that
have kids in public school care it makes
a difference verses if they dont care and
thats the same with HomeSchool :)


Katrina    Posted 05-06-2002 at 14:02:52       [Reply]  [No Email]
You have hit it on the nose! It doesn't matter what school your kids go to, if the parents are committed and making the children responsible for their actions, things should turn out alright. The school in our area is a fine school. We just enjoy the family so much and we are able to homeschool so the decision was made. Have not regretted it as of yet. It certainly is not cheaper than public schools. Books are expensive! Things are not perfect here but we sure enjoy the life. By the way, how many ACD's do you have? Been thinking about one but don't know anything about training them for the job.


Ollie - Katrina....    Posted 05-07-2002 at 15:54:52       [Reply]  [No Email]
One way to train them is using a good trained dog. Our female watched my hubby train our male to "go around", "get back there", etc. He did it in the living room using Casey's favorite ball. The rooms are all connected so he could go from the living room, down the hallway, into the office, then into the dining room and back into the living room.

One day when Casey was outside, the female wanted to play. So I told her "Get back there" and she went perfectly. Told her to "go around" and she did that perfectly too. Went which ever way I pointed. She had never been "taught", just watched and listened. If Casey is playing, he doesn't allow any of the others to play, at least not unless we make him leave them alone.


Ollie    Posted 05-06-2002 at 16:09:30       [Reply]  [No Email]
Have 3 ACDs. Raised puppies for years. Have them in at least 5 states. We have Mom, Dad, and one of their offspring.

One ACD is fine, two is ok, with three control goes out of the window at times.

The main problem with these dogs is that they are smarter than most people. They also need something to do. If ours don't have stock to work, they go out in the fields and hunt mice and gophers.

Love the breed. We have had other breeds, but plan to stay with these. They are very loyal, watchful and interactive. You don't want one if you are going to be away from them a lot.

Most people are scared of them. Which is good as you don't get people poking around where they shouldn't be. Don't blame them for being wary, especially with the youngest one. She didn't like the UPS guy taking a large box from the house and heeled him. She has also nailed a couple of guys who ran across the yard after being told to walk. She was not very well socialized. The male, however, thinks everybody comes to play stick with him.

These tough dogs go over to my mother's (she's 81, about 5 feet tall and not much over 100 lbs) and bangs on her door to get treats. They go on walks up to the pond with her. The young one will escort her from our door to hers whenever she comes to our house (she lives about 100' from our house). She can do anything with them. Heaven forbid anyone should try to hurt her. These dogs are on the large size and weigh about 65 to 70 lbs.


LinsMom    Posted 05-06-2002 at 12:51:11       [Reply]  [No Email]
This is our fifth year HomeSchooling.
After our third year we found HomeSat and
it was the best thing we could have found
for us :) I only wish I had known about
HomeSat from the very beginning but atleast
we found it before the really hard grades!
If you dont know HomeSat is a program from
Bob Jones University where thru a Satellite
Dish they bring Teachers into your home
and teach the classes. We love it and I
just cant say enough about it as even though
I still have to make sure our child does the
work and assist teaching it has taken so much
off of us where we can enjoy so much more
what we are doing. And with the private school
next door to us our child gets plenty of
socialization for anyone that reads and wants
to ask what about socialization! LOL
The best thing is our child can socialize with
children with the same interest and morals
as our child :)


Katrina    Posted 05-06-2002 at 12:58:13       [Reply]  [No Email]
Socializing - LOL!!! Isn't that the truth? My children get more socializing with relatives, 4-H kids, hockey kids, farm kids, other homeschool kids than anyone I know. And the best part is that they learn how to be adults by spending time with good role models. They are comfortable with people of any age. I will have to look into HomeSat. Sounds interesting.


Allison    Posted 05-06-2002 at 12:17:10       [Reply]  [No Email]
I just found this website this past week...and yes we homeschool too. It takes so much of our time, but we try to incorporate our daughter in what we are doing in our daily life. Any helpful hints?


Katrina    Posted 05-06-2002 at 12:49:36       [Reply]  [No Email]
I figure we are preparing them for adult-hood so anything they can learn from you will be helpful. How old are your children? Mine learn most of their science around home here. They know more than kids 3 years older than they are just by being outside with us and enjoying nature the way it it. I make the mistake of trying to do more every year and then it just gets to be too much for the kids to get done. They aren't learning more, just writing more. I reminded myself this year to keep it simple when I was getting my curriculum together for 2002-2003. I also love combining reading with historical books or informational books. My children are 10,8,5, and 3. Still learning as I go.


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