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Any of you using material off the farm to build with?
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S.W.    Posted 05-07-2002 at 07:42:54       [Reply]  [No Email]
We got a short shoe string if you know what I mean. Building a 20X72 hay shed addition. Using material cut & ripped here on the farm. Bought culled 1X8 from the sawmill near here. Using used tin for the roof. Red Cedar for posts. Don't have to be expensive to be right.

screaminghollow    Posted 05-07-2002 at 18:42:06       [Reply]  [No Email]
My neighbor cut down a lot of poplar trees to clear an area for a house. There were several oaks and a few maples. He called in one of those guys with a portable saw mill and swapped the oak and maple for having the poplars sawed into 12x8 timbers. He had enough of these timbers to build a log house about 25 x 25. He used native stone for the foundation and swapped some labor for having some oak boards kiln dried and milled into wide plank flooring. He needs a large over hang to protect the poplar loags from the weather, but the house is very nice and didn't cost much.

S.W. good to read    Posted 05-07-2002 at 19:17:54       [Reply]  [No Email]
Helps to motivate me whenever I read about folks that find a way to make it happen. Sure is pleasant to see that independant nature is still alive and working in the people of this land. Hear too much to the contrary in the mass media anymore.

As for the Poplar, keep it dry. That is the key.
Big overhangs will help. Sealcoat too---

Enjoyed all the posts concerning the use of raw materials off the farm. Any potters out there with a Pug Mill? S.W.

Spence    Posted 05-07-2002 at 10:38:16       [Reply]  [No Email]
You might want to take a peek at:

Buildings of this type have been standing 150
years. The trick is the foundation. You need at least 12inches of gravel well stamped, and a good slab of 3000psi re-bar inforced concrete about the same thickness on top of that.

Can't ask for a cheaper method I think.

PCC-AL    Posted 05-07-2002 at 09:54:07       [Reply]  [No Email]
Hi S.W.,
Heck, some of my shoes don't even have strings.
We built a 30 x 60 entirely out of red cedar, except the roof. We had some old tin from another building and used it. It is probably one of the true pole sheds in this area as even the rafters and supports are an entire pole. Nothing sawn except the runners that the tin is nailed to. We used old white oak cut from the farm that had seen previous duty as a fence. Just one little problem. The woodpeckers have been having a ball with the carpenter bees that nest in the cedar. I expect one day it will just fall in. Oh well, good luck.

S.W. 'bout them carpenter bees...    Posted 05-07-2002 at 10:36:49       [Reply]  [No Email]
Hey PCC,
I built the first half of our shed with dressed lumber. Used a lot of recyled stuff too. Most of the tin was old. Now we got a bad carpenter bee problem. I thought it was from the wood staying wet from the old nail holes in the old tin. Caulked the old nail holes. Dried up the frame lumber a whole bunch. Still have them durn bees a drillin holes on them rafters & beams. Looks like the neighbor has been shootin wide with that .45 long Colt... but I know better than that.
I've tried to use soap/water & the garden sprayer, I caulked the holes shut, I sprayed oil in 'em... heck I even sung to 'em. Nothin has worked so far. Do you know what we can do about it? S.W.

screaminghollow    Posted 05-07-2002 at 18:52:05       [Reply]  [No Email]
I gave my nine year old daughter a badminton racket from a yard sale and pay her twenty five cents for every dead carpenter bee. I also allow swifts to nest in the barn rafters, I heard they will kill/eat those dang bees.

Haven't a clue, S.W.-PCC-AL    Posted 05-07-2002 at 11:02:00       [Reply]  [No Email]
Some time ago we had a post here that I was in, but nobody had any good ideas. The woodpeckers are getting the bees, but they also get the shed. It's been standing about 25 years now so I guess I will just let it go. You might try pouring or pumping used motor oil in the holes, but I bet that won't work either. Good luck.

S.W. durn bees- what to do?    Posted 05-07-2002 at 11:12:34       [Reply]  [No Email]
Well, nuts. Thought for sure there'd be a cure come of this. Reckon I'll pipe some music out there to keep 'em up at night. Might make 'em irritable enough to move to a quieter shed.

Got any suggestions as to what kind of music we could use?

screaminghollow    Posted 05-07-2002 at 20:06:31       [Reply]  [No Email]
Was talking to a buddy on the phone about the problem. He suggested some of those sonic gee gaws thats supposed to scare off all manner of pests.
As for what type of music, I think "Flight of the Bumble Bee" would be good

S.W. ...WHEW ! funny bone got me---    Posted 05-07-2002 at 20:12:34       [Reply]  [No Email]
Sure appreciate that one Screaminholler... nice to turn in with a grin on my face. What a hoot.
Cracks me up.

Grove r    Posted 05-07-2002 at 08:11:58       [Reply]  [No Email]
Hi, SW, sure am using material of the farm to build with, trying to build a forty by sixty shop, if the weather would co-operate, started it last fall. Built my own sawmill a few years back and have sawn all the lumber that I use to build with. Have adequate good timber to see me through and for a lot of generations to come if used thought fully. Also have an old planer that I bought, well used, rebuilt it and put it and the mill under roofs. Feel I have saved a bundle of cash I didn't have by doing all this. Would like to get some pics or plans of a shingle mill, so there will be something else I will probably never get done, got me quite a list already.... have a gooder,R.E.L.

PCC-AL    Posted 05-07-2002 at 09:56:24       [Reply]  [No Email]
Grove r, I can lend you my froe.

Grove r    Posted 05-07-2002 at 16:24:37       [Reply]  [No Email]
Thought had crossed my mind, but I don't think I have the time to do all I need by hand, and besides, I lean pretty heavily to the lazy side.... thanks for the offer though, have a gooder, R.E.L.

Old Sarge    Posted 05-07-2002 at 08:42:10       [Reply]  [Send Email]
If you need any oak, or hickory come on down. After the tornado went thru here I got 4 Oaks bout 250 yr old laying on the ground. They'll be easy to load, you can drived right up to em. After we took the tops out of the driveway, they can be slid right up onto it. At tyhe butt they're about 4 ft.

Now the Hickory, it's about 5 ft (butt end) and 75-80 ft long. There's a yellow locust too but it's small. Only 18 in. at the butt, and 50 ft.

Been callin loggers but nobody seem interesterd. Too many others all around me with more timber. If nobody bites I'll have the kids out and cut them up for firewood.

Mark Hendershot    Posted 05-07-2002 at 08:18:18       [Reply]  [No Email]
With your qualifications you will get it done! I am wondering how my builders are going to deal with our high winds up here?? They can get up to 40mphs in a few minuits for no reason at all. I hope they keep the walls braced till they get it built. Wish I had your set up and the trees to do the same. Mark H.

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