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Nother Goat or Donna or Fern
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sdg    Posted 11-27-2004 at 16:37:09       [Reply]  [No Email]
See the thing is....I have the mother who had never been dehorned, and she had 3 kids, so I wasn't planing on dehorning them either, anyways, the boy's horns grew fast, so we seperated him, but the two girls didn't seem to be growing so fast so we put them togather by them selves, well, here's where the problem arises, before we seperated them from the mom, she bunted on of them and it chipped the top off of one of the horns (which I might add, bled alot!) and the other female, only one of her horns is growing good, the other one hasn't done much. So this leaves we with two females with one good horn each and I'm not sure what I should do. I know I will never put them with the other's who have horns because thier lack of any, so should I just leave them with weird horns or try and dehorn them? They are 6 almost 7 month old pygmys. I can send a picture over if anyone wants to see what I'm talking about. Thanks again....

Dell (WA)    Posted 11-28-2004 at 00:29:05       [Reply]  [Send Email]
Ya wern't quite ready for kiddin' were ya? 'member its strip, dip, and clip.

In your "kiddin' kitt" you should have 7% iodine for dippin the navel; elastrazier donuts and 4-finger stretcher machine for tail dockin' and de-nuttin' (eaziest done first 24 hrs 'cuz there's still some natural anesthetic still in the blood from the birthing process and is painless)

I never liked the HOT de-budding iron technique 'cuz they fight too much. I liked using caustic de-horning paste. I cutt circles in sticky tape and paste away. Doesn't take long for the paste to dry and I never noticed a mother nursing problem.

Should always have a "drenching tube". BIG 120cc (eazy to milk into) plastic syringe with a soft flexable tube to make certain your babies get the 1st milk with all the clostrium antibodies.

As for your current de-horning problem. I'd trim the hair surrounding the hornbase. Use one of your casterating donuts and SUPER-GLUE it in place with several spots of gel-superglue. I find super-glue best for stitching cutts too..........Dell

RichZ    Posted 11-27-2004 at 17:59:54       [Reply]  [Send Email]

My advice is to remove the horns on all of the goats. As you just found out, goats horns often get them into alot of trouble. As the goats get older, the horns get more brittle. They are hollow, but, as you found out, they have a network of blood vessels in them, and a goat can even bled to death from a broken horn. They also tend to get their horns stuck in fencing or other materials. And lastly, they can injure each other with their horns.

The horns can be sawed off, the best way is by using a saw chain (not a chain saw 8^)). The hard part is, that along with the blood vessels, there are a lot of nerves in the horn, and a broken horn, or sawing off the horn is very painful. It really should be done with a local anesthetic, which means you need to have a vet do it. Also, you have to be VERY careful about bleeding. The best way is to tie a string around the horn, just below where you're going to cut it, so that it acts as a turnicut to prevent bleeding. Then you need to put a combination antiseptic and blood clotter on the wound and then dress it. It really is a job for a vet. It's a bloody, painful, and potentially lethal job. I know of several people who were well experienced in removing horns from cows, that accidentally killed goats in removing a horn. There is a much bigger blood supply to a goat's horns, and it makes the job a lot more difficult. Once you have the horns removed from the adults, just keep the horns from developing on the kids, and you won't have anymore problems. Removing the horn buds from the kids is not hard, once you get the hang of it, though it isn't for the squemish. You get to smell burning fur, burning flesh and hear a kid screaming. But a quick spray of Solarcane and a baby bottle will take away the pain, and the kid will be happily playing in 10 minutes.

Fern(Mi)    Posted 11-27-2004 at 16:57:17       [Reply]  [No Email]
Well! I certainly hope they are growing as opposites so you will still have a pair!!!! (grin)

Sorry. I could not help myself.
My closest association with a goat was when I was kid (child) watching our Billy nailing mom or dad with a North bound bash to their Southern exposed derrieres. What a hoot!! Knowing his tricks, he had never gotten me. Fact: managing to get away from any internment mom or dad imposed, he would hang out with me all day. I guess I was his buddy?

Not a goat person nor goat expert. I suggest some study. There seems to a fair amount of negativity to removing Goat horns

found this also...    Posted 11-27-2004 at 17:52:03       [Reply]  [No Email]
...and looks the easiest way of all. Elastrator dehorning them.

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