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Little Criminals!???????
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Ron/PA    Posted 12-11-2004 at 15:30:13       [Reply]  [No Email]

Girl Arrested for Taking Scissors to School
Saturday, December 11, 2004

PHILADELPHIA A 10-year-old girl was placed in handcuffs and taken to a police station because she took a pair of scissors to her elementary school.

School district officials said the fourth-grade student did not threaten anyone with the 8-inch shears, but violated a rule that considers scissors to be potential weapons.

Administrators said they were following state law when they called police Thursday, and police said they were following department rules when they handcuffed Porsche Brown (search) and took her away in a patrol wagon.

"My daughter cried and cried," said her mother, Rose Jackson. "She had no idea what she did was wrong. I think that was way too harsh."

Police officers decided the girl hadn't committed a crime and let her go.

However, school officials suspended her for five days. Administrators will decide at a hearing whether she may return to class, or be expelled to a special disciplinary school.

The scissors were discovered while students' belongings were being searched for property missing from a teacher's desk.


School district officials have promised a crackdown on unruly students this year, and new policies give administrators the power to expel students for infractions as minor as violating the dress code, chronic tardiness or habitual swearing.

Administrators say the steps are needed to regain control over a notoriously unruly school system, but some parents have complained that discipline has been overly harsh and that school officials have been too quick to call police about minor problems.



Rickstir    Posted 12-13-2004 at 06:45:25       [Reply]  [No Email]
It is sad to say, but do not believe that a 10 year old, inter-city girl, does not know what she can do with a pair of scissors. The public school system is not what you remember it to be.


Jimmy    Posted 12-12-2004 at 11:05:24       [Reply]  [No Email]
Sorry to read about adults submitting a young child to trama like that- seems irresponsible to me & not what they are hired to perform with the taxpayers funding in the first place.

Have all of you seen the plastic scissors with blunt round ends and a small attached metal strip that has no strength for stabbing someone?

Now, if a backyard nobody like myself seen these 'safe' scissors, why did not that school approve those or at least inform parents of these 'safe' scissors?

Shame on them for submitting that child to such abuse. Rating? They get an 'F' on my report card.


KellyGa    Posted 12-12-2004 at 07:27:15       [Reply]  [No Email]
Speculation: Mom was too busy or too cheap to but the Fiscar scissors that are part of the students school supplies, so she just sent her to school with a regular pair of scissors.

My daughter is 10. She is smart enough to know what she can and can't be bringing to school. I always know what is in her bookbag. Always, but then again, I guess I may be an over attentative mother. (Sarcasm)

I do think they went a bit over board. Although, just this past week, a kid about this age was found carrying a pipe bomb at a local Christian Academy, and when they searched his room, found more stuff to make more...so, I think that may have warranted more attention than the scissors.


Quint    Posted 12-11-2004 at 22:29:43       [Reply]  [No Email]
Things sure have changed in the 14 years (yikes) since I graduated. Many of the guys I knew, myself included, usually had a rifle or a shotgun in the trunk or behind the seat of the pickup. We made crossbows, muzzleloaders and gun cabinets in shop class. We all carried knives of one sort or another. In 8th and 9th grade the big craze was boot knives. Everyone had a Gerber boot knife or at least a cheap Pakistani model. By 5th grade we all had Ruger 10/22s. Instead of buying drugs we spent our money on folding stocks, 50rd RamLine magazines, flash hiders, scopes and all manner of now naughty gun accoutrements. We ran around the woods with weapons terrorizing any woodland creatures who were in season, sat around at the dump shooting rats and burned through more ammo in a week than most people did all year. It was pretty common to go through 500rd brick of .22 ammo a week. If we got a little more wound up during the weekend and the rat population at the dump was high that might increase to 2 bricks or more. None of us ever got into trouble with the law, damaged any private property or even broke any laws except for making our own fireworks.
These days they would call out the SWAT team, Homeland Security and PETA and we would probably be locked up as terrorists. It must truly suck to be a kid these days.


Dug    Posted 12-11-2004 at 19:10:14       [Reply]  [No Email]
There was a follow up post indicationg that a child in Memphis stabbed another child with scissors. Hmmm, so the scissors are bad and keeping our kids away from scissors will solve the problem? C'mon, lets use a little common sense in these situations. We need to deal with the substance of the problem. Perhaps, if we get back to the basics in life such as God and family we could triump over these situations.

Dug


toolman    Posted 12-11-2004 at 17:55:27       [Reply]  [No Email]
"Chronic Tardiness" too.wow good thing im not going to school now , why i was tardy so often they had to extend the school year just to make up the time i missed by being late, my favorite thing to do on the way to school,goof off.


steve19438    Posted 12-11-2004 at 16:16:52       [Reply]  [Send Email]
when was the last anyone here was to the inner city?(ghetto)
the punishment is harsh to say the least but everyday in the inner city schools it is like being in bagdad.
certain circumstances........

hey ron, where was the "grouch"???


Patria    Posted 12-11-2004 at 16:37:12       [Reply]  [No Email]
Yeah Steve..it's sad but you are right also.



Lots of'em!    Posted 12-11-2004 at 15:56:36       [Reply]  [No Email]
And they are out to get us!!

I read this one in sky.com

Patria
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CUTTING EDGE PUNISHMENT

An American pupil has been expelled from school for taking scissors to a sewing class.

Jacob Finklea, 12, had taken them to his school in Indiana to make a set of pillows, but was booted out under his school's zero tolerance policy.

Jacob told the IndyChannel.com the teacher had told the pupils to put all their supplies on the table.

He said: "I put the scissors on the desk and she just freaked out."

Jacob's mother, Chrystal, said her son had hurt his hands while using a school set of scissors so she gave him a pair from home.

School chiefs across America have operated a zero tolerance policy since the 1999 Columbine High School killings.

A spokesman for Jacob's school in Pike Township told the website it "vigorously defended" the procedure.


SusieQ    Posted 12-12-2004 at 12:59:32       [Reply]  [No Email]
How in the name of God does children learn to cut paper, use a protractor, pencils, thumb tacks,and other sharp pointed tools of education? This country is becoming parnoid to be sure, and this is not good........


Peanut    Posted 12-11-2004 at 15:38:25       [Reply]  [No Email]
Yeah I suppose this little girl deserved to go to the Big House for 5-10 years. What was she thinking bringing scissors to school? Those things are dangerous weapons. The police were justified using the squad car to bring her in. I am surprised they did not use a stun gun to subdue her.

They should have checked out her backpack too. I can find the following deadly items in my kid's packs at any given time:
- Sharpened pencils (strategically placed - very deadly)
- Paper (ever had a paper cut? Ouch!)
- House key (you can put an eye out running with them)
- Ink pens (see sharpened pencils)
- Gum (may be used to suffocate by placing in the nostrils)
- Text books (weight = blunt trauma to the head)

Maybe the school and police officials need to revisit their policies. Or better yet ...

Let's say it all together ...

"Idiots not thinking foe themselves."

Try it. It works.


anon    Posted 12-11-2004 at 23:13:26       [Reply]  [No Email]
Shouldn't we need to know more about this before concluding? Was the child living in fear or was she the bully? Sad state of affairs anyway you look at it. Listen to your children.


Steve from TN    Posted 12-11-2004 at 15:42:37       [Reply]  [No Email]
Ironic that a student in a Memphis school stabbed another student this week with..........yep, scissors. The stabbed girl was transported to the hospital in non-critical condition and released.


Doc    Posted 12-11-2004 at 16:12:49       [Reply]  [No Email]
Yep.... and like it or not, that's where we are at today. I'm glad I won't be here to see what it will be like in 50 more years.


anon    Posted 12-12-2004 at 00:05:53       [Reply]  [No Email]
Agree,

But please, as adults, do not set your children adrift without support. Let them know that they can come to you to work out seemingly insurmountable (to them) problems. They will love you for it, even after you are long gone : (


anon    Posted 12-12-2004 at 01:00:32       [Reply]  [No Email]
eye-eye Sir!


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