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tacon1    Posted 12-15-2004 at 13:50:27       [Reply]  [No Email]
NAEP Reading 2000: 2 out of 3 4th graders cannot read proficiently

NAEP Math 2000 percents not proficient:
4th grade: 74% 8th grade: 73% 12th grade: 83%

Approx. 1/3 of the students enrolled in a four-year college need remediation

Achievement gaps exist between ethnic groups

Among industrialized nations, US 12th graders rank near the bottom
in science and math

78% of the respondents to a National Assoc. of Manufacturing Survey
believe public K-12 schools are not doing a good job

Greatest deficiencies identified were:
50% Basic employability skills
(attendance, timeliness, work ethic)
42% Math and science
38% Reading comprehension
36% Problem-solving
31% Written communication


jfky    Posted 12-16-2004 at 03:55:10       [Reply]  [No Email]
how many parents actually read to their kids every night and support a learning environment.


Rowdy Yates    Posted 12-15-2004 at 20:31:33       [Reply]  [No Email]
Public schools are nothing but a joke. "No Kids Left Behind Act" is another joke, they are leaving more kids behind now more than they ever did. Homework should be against the law.....that's why I pay enormous property taxes, etc. If I have to pay and spend 3-4 hours every eveing doing the work too, then I shouldn't be paying. Anyone can teach, even the teachers will admit that. They are now told what to teach and how to teach it in order to pass the test. I'm tickled for people like Kelly, but most people do not have that sort of time to devote to schooling activities. My wife and I both work and don't have 3-4 hours to spend every evening teaching our kids what the schools are being paid to do and don't. Truth of the matter is 90% of the teachers could care less, they are teachers for one reason.....$$$$$ and most of the year off....period. Bottom line is that you can have the smartest kids on earth and where are they going to find work?.....Walmart? I get so sick and tired of hearing education-education-education, it is nothing more than a government run money making scam from kindergarten thru college. School teachers in my "poor" part of the country make 40-60 grand a year, police officers and fireman don't even hit 40 grand. I'll shut up now. :)


steve19438    Posted 12-15-2004 at 15:04:45       [Reply]  [Send Email]
i guess geo w bush went to those schools!


tacon1    Posted 12-15-2004 at 15:25:18       [Reply]  [No Email]
I don't know, zipcode, but my guess would be he went to private schools.


Im Luckier    Posted 12-15-2004 at 14:21:34       [Reply]  [No Email]
Example of how much my kids are focused on doing well in school:
13 yr old - All of her classes are advanced learning. She has lots of homework and still aces the classes.
13 yr old - All but two of his classes are advanced. Does super well. Not quite acing them all but close. He reads on a college level.
10 yr old - Acing all his classes. Gotta keep him busy because he gets bored at school. Reading at a high school level.
10 yer old - Advanced classes. Aces all her work and classes. Somehow brings no homework home.

My kids are a smart bunch. They actually still like school and perform well. I am a proud dad.

- Peanut


That's not luck    Posted 12-15-2004 at 14:52:23       [Reply]  [No Email]
That is probably genetics and most definitely a result of good parenting. You must be setting good examples, and I would bet they were read to a lot as toddlers? Wow, two sets of twins! Gotta say, the first and third years were the most challenging here, I could not imagine having a pair of babies all over again when my guys were 3. They sure are fun, though, and the best of buddies. They do enjoy mischief, though. When they were 18 months, I caught one giving the other a boost from behind up to the railing on a second floor balcony.

I see you have two sets of b/g twins. Do they compete with one another? Do other people compare them much? My boys are not too competitive yet but I see it coming and I want to strike a balance when/ if possible. They are 4. One is more advanced in most areas.


Melanie    Posted 12-15-2004 at 14:23:10       [Reply]  [No Email]
With good reason!!!
Question: do you have 2 sets of twins?


Not twins    Posted 12-15-2004 at 15:23:55       [Reply]  [No Email]
Blended family. My wife brought four (two are grown) the other two 13/10 yrs old girl/boy. I brought two 13/10 boy girl. I could not have survived two sets of twins as babies. I shudder thinking about it :^)

- Peanut


Zenia    Posted 12-15-2004 at 15:45:55       [Reply]  [No Email]
Oh, that makes sense! I am sure some of the reason your kids are doing so well is you don't insert the "step" part in there.


KellyGa    Posted 12-15-2004 at 14:00:42       [Reply]  [No Email]
YEP...thats why I am taking my daughter to a whole new level. Anymore its not politically correct to learn faster than the slowest kid in class, they might feel inferior or left out. (Here the sarcasm in my voice???) I have had about all I can stand of this dumbing down America. I am going to take my daughters future into my own hands, and I can guarantee you she will be soaring ahead in no time.

Kelly...down here in GA, where our state scores are pitiful. :(


steve19438    Posted 12-15-2004 at 18:27:09       [Reply]  [Send Email]
sounds like you already have her believing she is a legend in her own mind.


big al    Posted 12-16-2004 at 03:54:08       [Reply]  [No Email]
reflections of an equine posterior


Rowdy Yates    Posted 12-15-2004 at 21:05:24       [Reply]  [No Email]
Just a little in steves defense.........Now I'm not trying to start anything here. I think that kelly is great. But if one where to just stumble on to some posts and didn't know her, it would sound as if kelly is making her kids out to be the smartest most intelligent kids in the state and all the rest of them are slow and/or dumb, and that her youngins are better than the rest. Although I know that is not what she means, but if you didn't know her, I think that it could be taken the wrong way. I could also say at one time my kids done very well in school...........then one day....BAM!!...that was the end of that!, they became teenagers. Changed overnight.


Les    Posted 12-15-2004 at 18:44:56       [Reply]  [No Email]
Steve, there's just no need for you to post that kind of ignorance. Maybe you're trying to get a rise out of people like me. Well, you got one. Kelly is trying to do what is best for her daughter. It ain't none of your damm business and your putdown of her (one of many of yours today) should not have any place on this forum. An apology from you is in order, you little snot.
(When you apologize to Kelly and change your ways, I'll apologize to you for calling you a little snot.)


Wow    Posted 12-15-2004 at 19:26:54       [Reply]  [No Email]
I try not to get into the P!ssing contests but Kelly sounds like she is doing GREAT. Steve, are you sure that was appropriate?

I like your posts and bantering with you. I don't think the attack was right. Did you mean what was presented to the readers of your post?

I am a proud pappa. I absorb everyone into my family. Its important to raise kids with self esteem and confidence.

Let Kelly parent as she sees fit. Save your sarcasm for someone else (i'd be glad to take it if that suits you). Kelly has shown nothing but good will on this board.

- Peanut


Les    Posted 12-15-2004 at 14:51:47       [Reply]  [No Email]
Kelly, up here in NH, our scores are right up there and they STILL ain't nothing to write home about. You have the right idea. Go for it (see my post above).


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