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Spring in Road
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Gunner    Posted 12-16-2004 at 17:46:29       [Reply]  [No Email]
Got a spring that has popped up in the road that is causing a mud mess - Was thinking of trenching down right on top of it and diverting to an adjacent creek w/ a perforated drain pipe, but was wondering if anyone had experience in dealing w/ this
The drain pipe would be buried underground and probably filled w/ rock - Not really sure how the water makes its' way back up to the surface, but it is on a slope

EngineerJoyce    Posted 12-17-2004 at 12:12:57       [Reply]  [Send Email]
Okay, you're definitely on the right track. My only modifications would be to try to "follow" the water stream to get as close to the source as possible. The water is either following a rock seam, or the loosest soil path it can find. Water follows the path of least resistance, so apparently at this point, something has clogged or compacted its former path, and it is now easier for the water to come to the surface.

Lay a perforated pipe as close to the source as possible, and provide a gravity outlet. You can cover the pipe by about a foot with egg sized rock, then top this with fabric, then on with dirt. When using fabric to isolate soil and rock, always do soil-fabric-rock or rock-fabric-soil. Never under any circumstances do rock-fabric-rock because the fabric will just get shredded and be useless.

I used the fabric as my driveway base instead of large rock. 3 years and not the first pothole. Even in the previously wet area that I didn't drain.

Best of luck.

Gunner    Posted 12-17-2004 at 12:47:13       [Reply]  [No Email]
What type of fabric? Have some that's supposed to keep the weeds from growing

How deep would you put the pipe down? The rock on the road is large - This spring is near the bottom of a 16% grade slope so was thinking of trenching at a slight angle across the road down to the creek

EngineerJoyce    Posted 12-17-2004 at 13:24:19       [Reply]  [No Email]
Geotextile fabric. About the same as your weed cloth, but that used for road construction is generally nuch thicker / heavier to withstand the loads.
What you have would keep the soil from moving down into the rock and drainage tile.

The pipe depth depends on crush resistance of the pipe. If it's that black corrugated perforated drain tile, I think 18 inches will give sufficient crushing resistance.

Definitely trench at an angle. Never directly up and down the slope. Water will also want to follow the surface of this trench, and it could be the start of a mean erosion problem.

*If you need good livestock may want to consider capturing this water as a "spring development" and piping it to a livestock trough. Seeps are sought out around here as a clean reliable free water source.

Willy-N    Posted 12-16-2004 at 19:06:26       [Reply]  [No Email]
The county has fixed them on our road befor. They did into them and fill them with big rock and a drain pipe off to the ditch. Then they cover the rock with a fabric and dirt and repack it good. Seems to work. Mark H.

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