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Need Mechanical Help Please
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Peanut    Posted 12-30-2004 at 15:21:01       [Reply]  [No Email]
I have a 1989 Honda Accord with 189,000 miles on it. 5 speed tranny. I was driving down the interstate today doing about 75 and the car just stopped running. I was not doing anything but steering and giving it gas. I tried popping the clutch as I coasted to get it running again. It did not work. Had to get the car off to the shoulder. I had juice because the clock and radio still worked. The car would turn over and fire up just fine but as soon as I let off the key, the car would not stay running. Just revs up and dies no matter how much gas I give it. After a few tries it started and kept running to get us home. Just as I was pulling in, the darn thing did it again. This time I have no juice for the clock or radio but the car turns over and fires up just like it did before. It just wont stay running. I had to pull it into the garage with the 4-wheeler.

Do I have a bad alternator? Please offer suggestions as I have no idea where to start. I hope this is something I can fix because I don't want to spend the $$$ on a mechanic.

PS - This car has saftey switch in the clutch (meaning the clutch has to be fully depressed in order to complete the electrical circuit).


DD    Posted 12-30-2004 at 16:26:18       [Reply]  [No Email]
Could it possibly be the ignition itself? I say that because of the way you said as soon as you let go of the key it shut back off : )

mark    Posted 12-30-2004 at 16:06:40       [Reply]  [No Email]
If it cranks and starts but dies when the key is
released coupled with no power to the radio or
clock I'm guessing a wire is loose, broken,
shorted or ground is bad on the run side of the
circuit. I'd first check for a popped fuse to see if
that would help narrow the search otherwise
pull out the schematic and start checking

If roads were sloppy I might start looking at
wires that could get splashed.

Peanut    Posted 12-30-2004 at 16:18:44       [Reply]  [No Email]
Mark, I read your post and went and checked all the fuses. All look good. That was a good idea though. Thank you anyway.

mark    Posted 12-30-2004 at 16:48:46       [Reply]  [No Email]
well that tells ya there isn't a direct short .. at
least one not bad enough to pop a fuse.

Just guessing since I don't know the wiring I'd
start at the starter, look to see if the solenoid
is mounted to it or the firewall or fender. Have
someone turn the key to the run position and
since you have no power to the clock or radio
have them watch those while someone else
wiggles the wires. If there's no power and
wiggling makes no diffrence take the wires
loose and clean the connetions, put them
back and try it for power. Still no change use a
9volt battery and put power to the small wires
to see if the clock or radio power up. If they do
from the 9 volt but not through key on then I'd
say solenoid.

If you have power right off and wiggling the
wires at the solenoid makes no diffrence then
continue wiggle and pulling ( gently ) on wires
to see if you can get power to go out. I'd pay
particular attention to connections ( pull em
apart and plug em back in, if they're bolted or
screwed see if they'll move on the bolt, stud or
screw ) around rubbing points and flex points.

Rajahs fourth Cousin    Posted 12-30-2004 at 16:16:05       [Reply]  [No Email]
Thank You Mr Mark Sir, I have Myself conferred with Cousin Rajah and He Himself did say this could very well be the problem.

LOL - mark    Posted 12-30-2004 at 16:51:45       [Reply]  [No Email]
Ain't never been called sir and certainly not sir
or mister in the same sentence .... I heard alot
of mister from my ma though

Ra    Posted 12-30-2004 at 15:54:00       [Reply]  [No Email]
I Myself know that Vindar must often renew the Fuel filter on His Carpet. To that extant I Myself would suggest You start there after which check the Fuel pump.Next to Coolent, Filters are the most neglected item on a Vehicle....Acording to what I have learned from association with You Westerners that is.

RAJAHS FOURTH COUSIN    Posted 12-30-2004 at 16:01:22       [Reply]  [No Email]
It would appear there was a malfunction and that this unworthy ones Name appeared as an Egyptian God. It is My most Humble desire this be corrected as I am only a lowly one from New Delhi.

LOL    Posted 12-30-2004 at 16:00:40       [Reply]  [No Email]
OK Rajah, what is the type of fuel you run through the filter on Vindar's carpet? Is it Carpet Fresh? Is it the stuff that comes out of the vacuum when Vindar cleans out his taxi? LOL. You are funny :^)

I will certainly look at the filters although it seems to be getting fuel, at least for a short period of time that is.

Rajahs Fourth Cousin    Posted 12-30-2004 at 16:09:58       [Reply]  [No Email]
No,No Mr Peanut it is I who Posted the information, I Myself know little of these things,it is only that I have overheard Cousin Rajah scolding Nephew Vindar for not doing so. He Himself did however mention tha words Lestoil but I Myself fear this might engender more problems than those You are now faced with. I do belive tho that a dying Filter may suffer a lingering and exasperational Death.

Clod    Posted 12-30-2004 at 17:03:46       [Reply]  [No Email]
I would think of this.You need 12 volts after you release the start portion of the ignition switch.If it cranks every time you use the start but dies when you release then check the volts that supplies the ignition system.I use a beeper made for backup alarms on construction EQP. (12 VDC ) At Radio shack too.But if you use a test light go to the supy wire,Have a friend crank the engine.If you get fire when craking and none on release you can think DD up there for the diagnostic expertise.Faultyingitioin switch/Also take the Indians advice on fuel filters.When they plug up with trash they have done their job well.

DD    Posted 12-30-2004 at 19:09:40       [Reply]  [No Email]
Thanks Clod, it was just an idea. I had the same problem with my van a few years ago. Ended up doing some African Engineering on it and putting a toggle switch inside. After that, just turn the key, flip the switch til it turned over and then flip the switch back off and away we'd go : )

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