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Dieselrider    Posted 01-09-2005 at 20:22:26       [Reply]  [No Email]
I was reading some of the opinions below on weather or not to give to the Tusnami victims relief effort. I'm not here to criticize anyone if you do or don't give it's up to you. Some are saying that "no one helps out the US when we have need" others say that "we have too much need here". Maybe that is all true, but when I stand before the judgement seat none of that will matter. I will never be judged for what someone else did for me or didn't do for me. I will be judged for doing or not doing whatever HE asked me to do.

Whatever we do unto the least of them we do it unto HIM. Y'all have a good night.

Ron/PA    Posted 01-10-2005 at 05:28:31       [Reply]  [No Email]
Deiselrider, that was pretty much my idea when I posted below. If I do or don't contribute to any given charity, is purely my decision. If I make up my mind, then no amount of pushin and shovin one way or the other is gonna change it. We've been blessed here on poverty patch, and our freezers are usually full, that being the case, none of mine will go hungry. You're right, one day I'll be judged of what I've done to and for my fellow man. But until that day, I've got to satisfy another judge, this guy.

The Guy In The Glass
When you get what you want in your struggle for self,
And the world makes you King for a day,
Then go to the mirror and look for yourself,
And see what the guy has to say.

For it isn't your Father, or Mother, or Wife,
Whose judgment upon you must pass,
The feller whose verdict counts most in your life,
Is the one staring back from the glass.

He's the feller to please, never mind all the rest,
For he's with you clear up to the end,
And you've passed your most dangerous, difficult test,
If the man in the glass is your friend.

You may be like Jack Horner and "chisel" a plum,
And think you're a wonderful guy,
But the man in the glass says you're only a bum,
If you can't look him straight in the eye.

You can fool the whole world down the pathways of years,
And get pats on the back as you pass,
But your final reward will be heartaches and tears,
If you've cheated the guy in the glass.

Dieselrider    Posted 01-10-2005 at 06:18:17       [Reply]  [No Email]
That's a good poem. I think i'll paste that somewhere for future reference. Thanks. How close are you to Beaver Springs and selingsgrove? I get down that way some.

Ron/PA    Posted 01-10-2005 at 07:13:05       [Reply]  [No Email]
Probably 30 miles or more from Beaver springs, and I haven't been there in years, other than to deliver fuel. Selinsgrove is only about 12 miles and we get there a couple times a year. Our friends sponsor Jeff Rine, and he did great last year. For drags, I'm closer to Numidia, but don't even get there. If you've ever been to Knoebels Groves, (Fun food and fantacy) I'm real close to that.

Melanie    Posted 01-09-2005 at 20:34:03       [Reply]  [No Email]
True. I may howl about not seeing any help coming to the U.S., but I did send a little bit through a local org that was matching donated funds dollar for dollar. I wouldn't feel right with myself if I let resentment prevent me from helping those in need. And I try to give a little bit to local charities when I have money as well.
I think it's great that people were created with the ability to exercise their own judgment based on their own ethics. And to some, the idea of spending $ on those in other nations while Americans starve is just too much to contemplate.
Where I can I do both, since I know that, compared to many in other countries, I am very rich indeed. Got an e-mail with a neat little parable about that... lemme see if I can track it down...

Burrhead    Posted 01-09-2005 at 20:55:09       [Reply]  [No Email]
True, but after all this is America and we don't need any help.

Til my dying breath I don't want any other country having to help us over any obstacle.

Bkeepr    Posted 01-10-2005 at 04:48:34       [Reply]  [No Email]
Yep, agree 100%.

Melanie    Posted 01-09-2005 at 21:03:28       [Reply]  [No Email]
Agreed. And as long as we can stay in that position we're doing okay; but even though we don't need it, the fact that it isn't even offered so that we could say "no thanks" rankles a bit.

Burrhead    Posted 01-09-2005 at 21:10:58       [Reply]  [No Email]
yep it would be nice

Found it...    Posted 01-09-2005 at 20:37:25       [Reply]  [No Email]
I dreamt that I went to Heaven and an angel was showing me around. We walked side by side inside a large workroom filled with angels.

My angel guide stopped in front of the first section and said, "This is the Receiving Section. Here, all petitions to God said in prayer are received." I looked around in this area, and it was terribly busy with so many angels sorting out petitions written on voluminous paper sheets and scraps from people all over the world. Then we moved on down a long corridor until we reached the second section.

The angel then said to me, "This is the Packaging and Delivery Section.Here, the graces and blessings the people asked for are processed and delivered to the living persons who asked for them."

I noticed again how busy it was there. There were many angels working hard at that station, since so many blessings had been requested and were being packaged for delivery to Earth.

Finally at the farthest end of the long corridor we stopped at the door of a very small station. To my great surprise, only one angel was seated there, idly doing nothing. "This is the Acknowledgment Section," my angel friend quietly admitted to me. He seemed embarrassed. "How is it that there's no work going on here?" I asked.

"So sad," the angel sighed. "After people receive the blessings that they asked for, very few send back acknowledgments."
"How does one acknowledge God's blessings?" I asked.
"Simple," the angel answered. "Just say, "Thank you, Lord."
"What blessings should they acknowledge?" I asked.

"If you have food in the refrigerator, clothes on your back, a roof overhead and a place to sleep ... you are richer than 75% of this world. If you have money in the bank, in your wallet, and spare change in a dish, you are among the top 8% of the world's wealthy.

"And if you get this on your own computer, you are part of the 1% in the world who has that opportunity.
"Also ..... if you woke up this morning with more health than illness ..... you
are more blessed than the many who will not even survive this day.

"If you have never experienced the fear in battle, the loneliness of imprisonment, the agony of torture, or the pangs of starvation ... you are ahead of 700 million people in the world.

"If you can attend a church meeting without fear of harassment, arrest, torture or death ... you are envied by, and more blessed than, three billion people in the world. "If your parents are still alive and still married .. you are very rare.

If you can hold your head up and smile, you are not the norm, you are unique to all those in doubt and despair."

"Ok, what now? How can I start?"

If you can read this message, you just received a double blessing in that someone was thinking of you as very special and you are more blessed than over two billion people in the world who cannot read at all.

Have a good day, count your blessings, and if you want, pass this along to remind everyone else how blessed we all are.

"Attn: Acknowledgment Dept.: Thank You Lord! Thank you Lord, for giving me the ability to share this message and for giving me so many wonderful people to share it with."

"For every minute you are angry, you lose sixty seconds of happiness."
-Ralph Waldo Emerson

SusieQ    Posted 01-10-2005 at 03:02:36       [Reply]  [No Email]
Very good Melanie...and oh how so true. Thanks.

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