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This year's garden
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Bkeepr    Posted 01-10-2005 at 06:40:43       [Reply]  [No Email]
We always plant our "reliables" plus a few new things that we try...last year was Jeruselum Artichokes and white sweet potatoes.

Not sure what our new things will be this year, but our regular items include:

tomatoes (lots and lots), peppers, winter and summer squash, white potatoes, sweet potatoes, garlic, green peas, cabbage, and sunflowers and peanuts for the critters.

This year I'm going to give up on onions, they just rarely do well enough to make the effort worthwhile. They taste great, but production is never very good. I gave up on sweet corn a few years ago, but may try one last time this year...dunno.

Our main vegetable garden is about 75' x 300' so I get lots of room for experimenting.

Tom A


Farmall    Posted 01-11-2005 at 17:22:21       [Reply]  [Send Email]

Ive got a 48 Cub and ive had an old spring tooth cultivator that is about 4ft wide or so. It had a homemade 3 point put on it. I took that off and rigged it to the drawbar of the cub. You can pull out and enterchange teeth, and so I leave a slot open right below the platform on the right sid and cultivate everything with it. I just got done plowing the garden bout 2 weeks ago. Ill disk it come Feb or so. I usta use the corn planter to mark the rows,and I found out when was the best time to plant corn by doing that as I still had corn in the hopper. I would only make rows enough for what I was that day planting. Anyway. Now, Im going to lay parachute cord out and hoe a trench to plant in, On soma the stuff thats to be barly in the dirt, I might use only the hoe handle instead. I last year, left the cord lay in the row and began immeaiat;ly cultivating around it. I didnt see any great advantage in yield, but it kept the weeds down longer. I planted my tomatoes ibn cages thereabouts 10ft apart I then could plow -straight 1 up and down + cross ways or X that way. Really kept the weeds down, but used up alot of ground. Ive got a small tiller, but dont use it anymore in my big garden, but got to use it in my 18 X 30 fenced garden.


farmerbill in ny    Posted 01-10-2005 at 19:30:17       [Reply]  [No Email]
We get our seeds from Johnnys Selected Seeds and Harris seeds.Never had a problem with either


sawtooth    Posted 01-10-2005 at 19:20:48       [Reply]  [Send Email]
Your right after my own heart. I have a garden about the same size- about a half acre. Do you use a roto- tiller? I don't. I fall plow, then harrow in the spring and use a g. tractor/cultivator to fight weeds. I have three 50 gallon old corn planter fertilizer tanks joined together that attach to an atv trailer to do some watering. Last couple years haven't needed it. The biggest problem is, what to do with all the largesse. One year my sister said she could use "some" sweet corn. My folks were going to her place- I filled their big car trunk as full as I could get it with big ears- along with some ice packs. They were worked on that late into the night!


Bkeepr    Posted 01-11-2005 at 04:32:02       [Reply]  [No Email]
I fall plow, too. Spring disk, then I run a middlebuster down my rows to lay them out and space them quickly.

From there, it depends what I'm planting. Potatoes, for example, go into the bottom of the furrows left by the middlebuster and I use an old push-plow to cover them over...usually two or three times while they're growing until I wind up with raised mounds and lots of taters underneath. For plants, I put them in by hand. For seeds, I'll run the pushplow down the rows to fill in the rows with crumbly soil; if the seeds are fine I'll normally use a push-plow with the cultivator attachment to make the crumbles fine (I used to use a rototiller for that, but found the push plow is about the same effort and a lot more pleasant to use). Then I'll plant rows with a push-type seeder...I can plant an entire row of seed in about 5 minutes with it.

My downfall is when it is time to weed. I usually keep up pretty well through the spring but by mid-July or so I get behind and by late August the garden is a jungle.

We try to can all our excess...some years we put up 50-60 quarts of tomatoes alone. We freeze other stuff--like peppers. And whatever I don't get to harvest, the chickens eat.

Tom A


sawtooth    Posted 01-11-2005 at 05:26:14       [Reply]  [Send Email]
Yep, I like the push planter too. I'm finding every season I wished I'd spaced the rows wider so as the plants get bigger there'd still be room to dig the weeds between rows. I've been using an old '50's Simplicity 2 wheel tractor to run between the rows with a compact cultivator I made myself. This year I'll get the rows out to at least 36" and try using an old Bolens (used only for tillage) with a rear cultivator a bit narrower than the wheel tread. I'm getting lazy from all the walking. But I like the 2 wheel tractors well enough I bought a second one, made a sulky cart to ride. Also made a 5' wide blade, duals on the 2 wheeler, to pull over worked soil before planting to level and smooth, works great!


just bought one!    Posted 01-11-2005 at 06:01:58       [Reply]  [No Email]
Broke down about 2 months ago and bought a David Bradley at auction, with about a half dozen attachments. I've got it running pretty well now, though not yet perfect.

I plan to try it between rows this year, although I really bought it for the sicklebar mower so I could keep some weeds down in tight spaces that the goats don't have access to.

We really *do* have similar operations!

Tom


Thanks    Posted 01-10-2005 at 09:52:14       [Reply]  [No Email]
for your input Alias. Maybe I will just order one or two things and see what happens. Like you I too get most of my stuff from a local nursery.Its the unusual stuff I like to try that I have to order. Wish it was time to plant already lol...my fingers are gittin itchy hehehe


SusanMo    Posted 01-10-2005 at 09:04:02       [Reply]  [No Email]
Thanks Alias I ordered that one last week was one I didnt have lol. Have you ordered out of any? I have an order for 60 bucks for Gurneys but I dont want to waste my money if they dont stand behind there product or it isnt any good.


Alias    Posted 01-10-2005 at 09:43:55       [Reply]  [No Email]
Susan, except for seeds such as tomato, pepper and other thanks that I start indoors, I always buy my seed locally. Items such as beens, peas corn, beets, squash and other direct planting seeds, I get from a nursery near where I live. Most of which is from Myers Seeds of Baltimore. They are much cheaper and I've never had a failure due to bad seed.

I don't think Myers does any mail order business. And, it's a shame. For, everyone I talk to says their seeds are best. ......gfp


SusanMo    Posted 01-10-2005 at 07:39:46       [Reply]  [No Email]
Been making a list of stuff for our garden this year too! I have a question for all you fellow gardeners...how many of you actually order seeds from seed catalogs and they do well and what ones do you order from. I had a big list I wanted to order from Gurneys then a man I know said he ordered from them last year and not one seed he got from them germinated..he is also having trouble with them responding to his letters about it. I found some new things I wanted to try that I cant find in the local nurserys here, but if they arent reliable I will look elsewhere...any suggestions?


Bkeepr    Posted 01-10-2005 at 10:19:24       [Reply]  [No Email]
We spread out our orders, buying some seeds and stock from several different companies. Usually put together 3-5 orders every year, and make sure we hit all of our favorite companies at least once every couple of years.

So we order at least a little from the following companies, listed in no particular order:

Schumway’s (lots of variety, good service, good quality.)
Seeds of Change (organic)
Seed Saver’s Exchange (especially the member's database)
Vermont Bean Seed Company
Gurney’s (Had trouble two years ago, but they made it right so I don’t have a problem with them. Everyone deserves one screw-up.).
Stark Brothers (nursery stuff)
Miller Brothers (nursery stuff)
Myer’s Seeds (Small, old company in Baltimore Md, my wife’s grandfather dealt with them exclusively.)
Ronniger’s (almost entirely potatoes, every variety you can think of and more. Best quality, but a little pricey.)

I may have forgotten one or two, but that's the bulk of the ones I can vouch for.

Tom A


bnob    Posted 01-10-2005 at 10:04:01       [Reply]  [No Email]
I had same trouble also on free 20.oo order didn,t receive it They sent replacement seeds but were too late to plant. when they were in S D we would drive up and buy but since sold out not reliable


Alias    Posted 01-10-2005 at 08:53:16       [Reply]  [No Email]
Susan Mo........give this a try.

www.rhshumway.com/shumsite/shumsiteuserlogin.aspx

These folk charge less for shipping and handling but they make up for it with the price of their seed. There's a sign-up page for a new catalog.


bob ny    Posted 01-10-2005 at 07:23:51       [Reply]  [No Email]
yeah i was thinking about tilling too but looking at 2 in of ice on 8 in of snow i guess i will just think about it some more


Alias    Posted 01-10-2005 at 07:11:29       [Reply]  [No Email]
B'keeper, I thought my garden was large. (125'X140')

I too like to grow a variety of stuff and I always like to try one or two new ones. At least new for me. My biggest problem is with squash and cucumber bugs. Do you have any sure fire kill methods that don't include harmful chemicals? If so, I'd sure like to know about it. Thanks in advance.......gfp


Bkeepr    Posted 01-10-2005 at 07:41:00       [Reply]  [No Email]
I've used a homemade trap for squash vine borers the last few years. They're made from an old milk jug and baited with some mix of molassis and vinegar...I'll look up the recipe and post it in the next week or so if anybody's interested.

I do dust with rotenone powder if bugs get too thick or damaging. Don't have to do it often, but often enough. Rotenone is condiered organic, although it is more powerful than many non-organics...advantage is that it doesn't last long (wellll, I guess that's a disadvantage too but I can keep up with it if need be and would rather not have chemicals hanging around my garden forever.)

Tom A


Alias    Posted 01-10-2005 at 08:31:46       [Reply]  [No Email]
Thanks Tom, yes, I would like to get your receipe.


Ron/PA    Posted 01-10-2005 at 07:03:18       [Reply]  [No Email]
We kinda do the same thing, only our main ingredient is sweet corn, 'bout 2 acres. We've been spraying, but I let my applicator license expire, so I'm actually going back in time and try cultivating.
I gave up on onions a few years back, the extension service supposes my ground is just too rocky and the onions can't expand enough to grow. Now I plant one row to eat as spring onions and that keeps Dad happy, when he comes out to pillage and plunder. He also requires a fair stand of rhubarb, as it's a trading commodity in his retirement community. I get about 2 pies and pop swipes the rest.
We also plant a half dozen zuchini plants, mostly for the pigs, but every now and then somebody in the family or a friend will tick me off, and I make sure I repay them with zuchini! LOL
Enjoy the bounty, it's sure time to dream about it here.
Ron


Hawk    Posted 01-10-2005 at 06:46:43       [Reply]  [Send Email]
Tom, when you get a spare minute would ya shoot me a email, i have a question for ya. thanks


Just sent...    Posted 01-10-2005 at 07:00:18       [Reply]  [No Email]
in case it gets caught in a spam filter or some-such.


Hawk    Posted 01-10-2005 at 10:02:48       [Reply]  [No Email]
Beekeeper, got your message and i understand, no problem. take care.


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