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Brian in NY    Posted 01-20-2005 at 06:21:46       [Reply]  [No Email]
Bought at auction a Palmetto Arms Co.
12 Gauge single shot appears to be early 20th century or late 19th century. No serial # or model # on the gun anywhere.

Stamped on receiver is Palmetto Arms Co.
Philadephia USA

Does not appear to be a reproduction unless it was used every day for 20 years. It is very worn, but appears to be all original.

Anyone have any information on this gun or Palmetto arms? I found a Palmetto arms in Italy but it is a more modern company, so do not believe is related.

Thanks in advance.


screaminghollow    Posted 01-20-2005 at 08:05:01       [Reply]  [No Email]
Actually, there were at least three Palmetto arms companies. The modern Italian guns which are mostly replicas and black powder. (got two of them) The company you mentioned, which I believe was not really a manufacturer of their own, but had them made by others under contract. (A common practice in the old days. Most Sharps rifles were manufactured under similar contracts) There was also a manufacturer of Pistols in the Carolina's in the 1840's They are known as Palmetto pistols. I believe yours was simply someone elses' make stamped with another company's name for sales. Like Revelation, J.C. Higgens and other's were brands for department stores and hardware companies. I have a civil war Zouave repro which is stamped "Sears, Robuck and Co." but also says it was manufactured in Italy by Antonio Zoli and Company.


matt    Posted 12-27-2006 at 17:12:05       [Reply]  [No Email]
As for your Zouave marked sears and robuck. In the 1970"s sears sold a blackpowder kit. It was an Antinio Zoli 58 caliber Zouave replica.


steve19438    Posted 01-20-2005 at 07:22:22       [Reply]  [Send Email]
give gunbroker.com a try.


KraigWY    Posted 01-20-2005 at 07:20:13       [Reply]  [No Email]
I think, (can't tell for sure without looking) you have the Palemtto Model 11, It was made by Steven (later Savage Stevens). It should be the Steven's model 85 or 89. Stevens (Savage-Steven) made a lot of guns for Department Stores, Sears, JC Penny's, Wards Etc. Without looking I would guess, (and it is just a guess) the Stevens model 9478 is real simular and the parts should be interchangable. They are still available throug Numrich corp. Remember this is based on the short discription of the gun you gave us.


Justin Jeffries    Posted 12-29-2006 at 17:20:13       [Reply]  [Send Email]
my father-in-law has a palmetto arms co. 16ga. and was pattened in aug.12 1913 no model# is on the gun. I was trying to get a value on the shotgun just to have a idea what the value is on it. thank you


midway    Posted 01-20-2005 at 07:15:51       [Reply]  [No Email]
Is this the on you bought


Brian in NY    Posted 01-20-2005 at 07:29:03       [Reply]  [No Email]
Midway---that is similar but mine has some fancy checkering on the stock and forend. Appears largely the same, however. Good find, thanks!

Keith in WV---that sounds like good information, and at the very least a starting point.

Got the gun real cheap just for fun. Does not appear to be worth much more than I paid, but will make a nice wall hanger by the woodstove!

Thanks a bunch everybody for your time and research.


Brian in NY    Posted 01-20-2005 at 07:30:09       [Reply]  [No Email]
sorry...memory failed me....should have been kraig in WY not keith in WV.


midway    Posted 01-20-2005 at 07:01:19       [Reply]  [No Email]
There is (was) a Palmetto Arms Co. in Italy


dale anne    Posted 01-20-2005 at 06:43:23       [Reply]  [No Email]
Howdy Brian....do a search for gun forums.....you should be able to find links and folks that can give ya an idea on what ya got or whomit is ya should talk to....if worse comes to worse take it to a gun shop they should be able to tell ya more about it...but iffin they offer ya money fer it...run like the wind cause they know more then what they are telling ya....dale anne


Lefty    Posted 01-20-2005 at 07:13:06       [Reply]  [No Email]
Found similar ?? on a gun site via Google,not a lotta help but....sounds kinda like"Sears"or such,ie:various makers "branded" as "Palmetto".
Thing to do would be to "match" it with a known brand/model.

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"The Palmetto Arms Co. of Philadelphia PA. sold single barrel shotguns made by the Crescent Fire Arms Co., The W.H. Davenport Arms Co., The J. Stevens Arms & Tool Co. and the Hopkins & Allen Arms Co."
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