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Neighbors horses/our pasture
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jamo    Posted 01-29-2005 at 02:50:30       [Reply]  [No Email]
We have 5 acres out back that our neighbors would like to use for their brood mares and babies. The fence is in very bad shape. They say that they will fix the fence and keep it cut down. They have a tractor, we don't. They will build a shelter on skids so that it can be moved to avoid a mud hole. I have a horse(Walker 14, and a mini donkey) My farrier says that the mare's will probably kill the donkey as they are so different and not use to it. They look different, act different, smell different. He explained keeping them seperated by a fence until they got use to one another, but I'm not sure if this will work. Also, I'm a little concerned because my guys won't be able to come and go in and out of the barn as they are use to because I'll have to keep the gate closed to the back pasture. I am befinning to have other concerns or questions as well.

What about insurance and liability on our part? They are very nice people, but I've seen the worse come out in some when there's an accident or money involved.

What about utilities? We would be providing water and electricity. Not much $$ but over seversal years it could add up.

Would we be better off repairing the fence oursleves, paying them to cut and then charging them rent? Could we then consider this a business and claim some sort of deduction?

And lastly, that means that our neighbors will be over at our place often. I'm not to keen on that either, but it's also not a huge thing.

What do you think? This would be a great way for us to get our fencing repaired(it's bad) and I'm sure I could learn alot about horses(I need the education)but I'd like some opinions please.

Thanks,

Jan



KellyGa    Posted 01-29-2005 at 12:27:09       [Reply]  [No Email]
I agree with Salmoneye, after reading, it sounds like you have a lot of doubts and worries, and who needs that? Politely tell them no, that your animals are used to having the run of the 5 acres, and it wouldn't be fair to your animals to do that. Takes nothing to fix a fence, Fern knows, do what he recommends. Good Luck, and if they get mad, then you know you would have had trouble anyway, so it was best to say no from the start.


bulldinkie    Posted 01-29-2005 at 07:40:29       [Reply]  [Send Email]
You do have to be careful injurys,also aquatters rights we know people that thier neighbor offered to mow his land and next thing you know they went to court .They took care of it all these years he wants it and guess what he did!!!!!!.Just remember business and friends dont mix well


Patria    Posted 01-29-2005 at 06:53:50       [Reply]  [Send Email]
Hey jamo..my goodness woman! where have you been ? I've been wondering about you, and months ago I posted a holler for you. I lost your addy too. Please drop me a line whenever you have time. Hugs!


hay    Posted 01-29-2005 at 05:38:40       [Reply]  [No Email]
well, it's sure your choice, but i sure would not ever do it ...again. just got out of a situation like that and it was not a pretty sight. first don't ever count on anyone else fixing and maintaining fence because it won't happen. second 'ol dobbin will eat grass to the dirt and leave a bare pasture. third, there will be folks on your place all the time for any number of reason about the horse. and last consider the liability if the horse gets out and causes an auto accident, guess who is responsible? ya right, it is the owner of the property. it's sure your call, but i will NEVER ever rent pasture to someone else's animal again.


mojo    Posted 01-29-2005 at 04:57:23       [Reply]  [No Email]
You fix the fence, sooner or later it'll have to be done anyway. Hire it done if necessary. Don't get in the position of being obliged to them.
Let them have it til something-like-june as a trial period. If the pasture is overgrown they can't overgraze it by then and it'll actually be good for the grass. By the end you'll know how often they come over, if they just do their business and leave, or hang around and visit. A part of this will be you having to keep an eye on them for problem foalings. Not your responsibility but it is a part of being a good steward.
Their insurance should cover their animals and your liability insurance should cover any accidents they might have, but double check with your agent.
Charge a very small fee and get everything in writing to keep the legal eagles happy.
The most important thing is to be completely honest about everything, let them know about your concerns (except the one about them possibly being a nuisance!). Communication will prevent alot of troubles, gets the thorns out before they can fester.

I let the neighbors use a small lot I have last winter, they did stop to visit everytime but that was alright by me. But they didn't hay as often as they should have and I was afraid animal control was going to get them (us?) for neglect. Them horses was skinny! Told them the pasture wasn't benefitting them anymore and it'd be easier to hay if they were back at their place, get 'em out. We're still great friends.
I rent the rest of my pasture to a high school buddy for his draft mares. Nothing is written down, we just talk and mention concerns when they arise. Whosever in the best position to handle the problem handles it. It's kinda a compitition to see who can do the most for the other! And if anything should happen that I'd get screwed over, I can't think of anyone I'd rather have gain from it than him!

mojo
mdw

PS...buy a tractor, I highly recommend Allis Chalmers WD or WD45, easy to work on, fun to work with, and look great all polished up!


Fern(Mi)    Posted 01-29-2005 at 04:22:39       [Reply]  [No Email]
Three Strands of high-tensile fence wire (longest lasting) for five acres doesn't cost that much. Set and brace four solid (utility post) corners and a gate way with a few 5-½‘ “T” posts in between. Add an inexpensive one amp fence charger to the top and bottom wires to keep the critters honest and you're all set. That’s all we use.

Search "high-tensile fence" on E-net.
Fernan


NH farmer    Posted 01-29-2005 at 03:24:59       [Reply]  [No Email]
IF YOU GET ALONG NOW LEAVE IT THAT WAY .HOW WILL YOU GET THEM OUT WITH OUT HARD FEELINGS IF YOU HAVE TO .A FENCE FOR HORSES IS NOT MUCH MONEY ,AND LAST A LONG TIME


Donna from Mo    Posted 01-29-2005 at 04:09:27       [Reply]  [No Email]
You can say goodbye to decent pasture, if they have several horses and you only have five acres. Horses will ruin good pasture grass real fast by overgrazing. They'll eat it down till you have nothing left but dry lot. This is one of the main things my husband doesn't like about horses. The other thing he has a problem with is the way they ruin a fence by reaching over it and leaning on it (solution - electric fence along the inside)... but I digress.

It seems to me that you have some doubts about this deal on several counts. I'd say don't do it. Pay someone to mow your pasture a couple times a year and keep on being friends with your neighbor.


Gotta agree...    Posted 01-29-2005 at 04:05:07       [Reply]  [No Email]
I think you have already stated your fears Jan...

I would listen to yourself and politely say no...

Salmoneye,


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