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Voting for freedom
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mud    Posted 01-30-2005 at 10:30:30       [Reply]  [No Email]
looks like them folks over in iraq want to vote no matter the bombs. let freedom ring louder.


big fred    Posted 01-30-2005 at 12:00:28       [Reply]  [No Email]
I was watchin' some of the coverage earlier. Fox News was reporting that there were attacks, but kind of in passing, concentrating instead on the mood of the voters, showing soldiers dancing in the streets. Same on MSNBC. CNN, however, seemed to be concentrating a lot on the terrorist attacks and the body count. I also noticed the announcers on CNN often had foreign accents, even the newsroom types in Atlanta. Guess Turner's goin' Euro...


steve19438    Posted 01-30-2005 at 11:16:29       [Reply]  [Send Email]
that election is a joke. as soon as the us military leaves it will be back to business as usual; another despot will come to rule.



Ron/PA    Posted 01-30-2005 at 13:29:43       [Reply]  [No Email]
Yer kidding right? Maybe the results and outcome will be a joke, but for those folks to venture out and cast a ballot with the threat of death to them and their families hardly seems like a joke to me.
We see a poor voter turnout if it's raining. What would we do if it were raining bombs??
I suppose if I lived in the veil of Phila. I'd have a jaundiced view of the election process also. I just can't understand how anyone would consider the chance to express their god given right to freedom as a joke.
Course, I've been on the other side of the ballot and understand the joke.. LOL
Ron


steve19438    Posted 01-30-2005 at 14:08:44       [Reply]  [Send Email]
here's the thing;
"SH" was in power from 79 to 03. now before 9/11 where was all this concern and outpouring of compassion for the iraqi people? i know where it was, there was none. since 9/11 and now that we have troops in iraq "we" somehow have to justify our presence in the country. i hope the people of iraq receive a better life but i wouldn't bet on it.



Dave 2N    Posted 01-30-2005 at 18:11:21       [Reply]  [Send Email]
Hi Stevie-
Bad day? Eat something for lunch that didn't agree with you? Sometimes you do tend to go off the deep end? You aren't by any chance Burrhead's brother, are you?


nope    Posted 01-30-2005 at 19:21:25       [Reply]  [No Email]
he's his own man, albeit opinions and a.h.'s are hard to distinguish.

i do side with on about 10% of his stuff. hard to admit it at this juncture though.

dam, zipcode, what the heck?


forgot to tag it    Posted 01-30-2005 at 19:22:17       [Reply]  [No Email]
mud


Ron/PA    Posted 01-30-2005 at 16:38:05       [Reply]  [No Email]
Steve, I just am not equiped to argue logic like that. You win, I'm entering a zone I'm not equiped to do battle in.
What I do know is this, England ruled for a lot longer, and had Japan been victorious, I'd still be fighting for the chance that the Iraqis have today.
Whatever
Ron


steve19438    Posted 01-30-2005 at 16:48:03       [Reply]  [Send Email]
there are no winners or losers here, just opinions.


~Lenore    Posted 01-30-2005 at 13:00:20       [Reply]  [No Email]
Steve, steve...I do not claim to be 'holier than thou', but I am a lot more optimistic and happier than thou. Such pessimism is a destructive force.
Lighten up and expect good things!! It is good for your health. :-)


mud    Posted 01-30-2005 at 11:59:14       [Reply]  [No Email]
i had not thought of it as a joke. nor will i.


Les    Posted 01-30-2005 at 11:24:43       [Reply]  [No Email]
I rest my case. Steve Zipcode has spoken. And John Kerry said practically the same thing. So I guess that settles it. Those Iraqi people don't deserve anything but misery for the rest of history. We've done this for nothing and should be ashamed of those people dancing in the streets as they risked their lives to vote.
Leave it to some to find the cloud that the silver lining surrounds.


steve19438    Posted 01-30-2005 at 11:43:49       [Reply]  [Send Email]
we will see where the county is at in say three years. i hope you are right!
as i am not a hypocrite i will say that i really don't give a hoot about them people. while i wish them no ill will i also don't care whether they live in a democray or not.
now, lets hear it fron all you "holier than thou" type's.


Dave 2N    Posted 01-31-2005 at 05:49:41       [Reply]  [Send Email]
Stevie-

Try some "Rolaids" first. If they don't work, move on up to "Prilosec OTC" or "Nexium." One of these should solce your problem.


Dug    Posted 01-30-2005 at 12:55:16       [Reply]  [Send Email]
Well, Steve, considering your comments, I would definitely consider myself "holier than thou"!

Looks like up to 72% of eligible voters turned out. And keep in mind, to vote one has to die the tip of their index finger which stays on for days. Talk about marking yourself and giving the insurgents/terrorists a target! That speaks volumes about the hopes of the Iraqi people. It's a great day for the Bush administration, the people of Iraq and the world in general. Looks like Bush is carrying through with his promise to spread freedom.

What to go, Dubya!

Dug


Les    Posted 01-30-2005 at 11:04:41       [Reply]  [No Email]
I expect the nattering will continue in this country anyway. From people like Kennedy, Byrd, Moore and others.


~Lenore    Posted 01-30-2005 at 10:39:58       [Reply]  [No Email]
YES!
Over 60% of the registered voters showed up under the threat of death!
They are smelling that fresh smell of freedom for the very first time!
Those other tyrants and "royal families" are trembling today.
I think they fear their days are numbered,
not over night but over time


deadcarp    Posted 01-30-2005 at 10:53:46       [Reply]  [No Email]
next they hafta learn to accept representation - no matter who wins, half the country will "not follow one of those". and he'll die believing it.


rayinmo    Posted 01-30-2005 at 11:46:48       [Reply]  [No Email]
We ought to be ashamed of ourselves! We don't have that big of a turnout for a lot of our elections. LOL


mud    Posted 01-30-2005 at 12:07:49       [Reply]  [No Email]
hello ray,
you raise a very good point in my book.
freedom is something we need to exercise at every election.

each vote counts. despite the rumblings and distractions of weaker ideals. each vote counts. our right to vote came from blood spilled fighting tyranny. regardless of mishaps and loopholes, our countries history has proven over and again that each vote counts. folks on the left may cry about florida, and folks on the right have cried in the past about chicago, but history proves it out over and again, each vote counts.

each generation has to continue in this tradition for our country to remain strong.
the collective voice of reason---

mud


thanks    Posted 01-30-2005 at 12:14:54       [Reply]  [No Email]
For expressing it much better than I can.LOL


Hal/Ind    Posted 01-30-2005 at 12:47:31       [Reply]  [No Email]
I have proof that every vote counts. On election day in 1986 I was out of state on an emergency trip and did not vote. The sheriff's race in my county ended up tied. It was settled by a flip of a coin. Not exactly how it should be.


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