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Another disgruntled Wal-Mart customer!
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Charles(Mo)    Posted 02-05-2005 at 16:19:32       [Reply]  [No Email]
I know that a lot of you are not advocates of walmart. And I have seen a lot of posts about them, but I just have to vent.

I need to change the oil in my pickup and the wifes car. So I run over to walmart to get a case of oil and a couple of filters. I have always used Motorcraft oil and filters and have bought them at walmart. Not any more. Walmart says that they aren't carrying Ford oil or filters anymore. They aren't sure why maybe poor sellers. Another guy was there the same as me, looking for the same thing. All they carry in filters is Fram. I won't put a Fram on anythin I own.

I guess I will have to look around for Motorcraft stuff.

I refuse to let them dictate to me what brand I use. There are other places that want my business.

Drained in s.e. mo.
Charles


KellyGa    Posted 02-06-2005 at 04:37:46       [Reply]  [No Email]
Charles, try another Walmart. My husband likes to use the motorcraft filters, and at the one I usually go to, I cant find them, but the at another one, they have them. Just a thought.


jughead    Posted 02-06-2005 at 03:26:51       [Reply]  [No Email]
more power to you.


Redneck    Posted 02-06-2005 at 02:19:29       [Reply]  [No Email]
Reminds me of an old engine I ran that loved to foul plugs. It was worn out, I was almost broke and had to make it run a little longer like it was. I had two plugs that fouled on a regular basis and went thru a bunch of different plugs of differnt heat ranges etc. I fell for Autolite plugs. Would run longer and better. Same with Dello diesel oil. Hate it. HAd an old Detroit that loved oil. Go thru a gallon in four hours of Dello. Switched to Texco Ursa, same grade and weight. A week and a half on a gallon. Dello would be nasty in 30 minutes after a change, Texco would look like honey for weeks.

Difference? Who knows. I go by what works for me. Lot of other simular things thru the years that have made me brand loyal to a point. Quality control comes into play too as a product will change on you.


Alvin NE WI    Posted 02-05-2005 at 17:45:14       [Reply]  [No Email]
I call them the bentenville bullies. i don't shop there period. If you watch prieces than you will find on a lot of necessary items they are not the cheapest.


KatG    Posted 02-05-2005 at 16:56:07       [Reply]  [Send Email]
We like the SAm's Choice Extra Rich coffee creamer...$1.37...Went to buy some at the Wal_MArt in town and they told me they were not making it anymore...Went down to LA to visit MAtt's relatives and low and behold they had it at their Wal-MArts...Thinking I had really found a deal we bought all they had...30 jars...and them carried them 400 miles home...Told MAtt that if we got cop stopped they would think we were running drugs for sure and tear into all my coffee creamer...Luckily we made it back to ArK okay...
Had an occasion to go to the city...35 miles away and there was the creamer like always...Ask them how much they had lift...Got a strange look and explained the saga to the stocker...Come to find out that Wal-Mart still makes and sells the creamer but our town's store doesn't carry it...So they lied...and no one knows why...KAtG


Linda/Utah    Posted 02-05-2005 at 21:23:58       [Reply]  [No Email]
I've had some luck with emailing Walmart's main office with requests for certain brands/items. Stuff our local store hadn't carried for a couple of months showed up a few weeks after the emails were sent. Maybe a coincidence, maybe not.

I know the new manager of our local Walmart and he called me in kind of a panic after I sent an email complaining about things our local store was chronically out of - every weekend they were out of milk, distilled water and other items. He said they sent him a copy of the email a day or two after I sent it. He nicely asked if I would ask for him and give him my complaint personally the next time I had one.


Clipper    Posted 02-05-2005 at 17:24:53       [Reply]  [No Email]
KatG said:Told MAtt that if we got cop stopped they would think we were running drugs for sure and tear into all my coffee creamer.

LMAO.....whatta visual you gave me with that statement! The only thing missing was having the back seat fulla chickens as well as creamer! LOL!!


bo    Posted 02-05-2005 at 16:31:38       [Reply]  [No Email]
You're absolutely correct, you don't like the brands that Walmart has then it is your duty to go elsewhere. So why are you upset with Walmart? They make a rational business decision to only carry the most profitable/in demand items and they don't happen to be the ones you want.

Tell the truth, if it was your store, would you carry on limited shelf space, brands which only a few want or the more in demand popular ones? Of course this is a loaded question because if you carry brands which are not in great demand or as profitable, you'd be out of business.

Incidentally, I've been using Fram in most everything for probably 40 yrs and never had a oil/filter failure....if it was so bad, they would be buying engines for every third person.


Bob    Posted 02-05-2005 at 17:01:14       [Reply]  [No Email]
I, too, have used a lot of the Fram filters over the years, without any problems. I have seen both the Fram filters and Walmart oil bashed many times on various boards. I do not advocate either to anyone, but have no reason to "dis" them, either. I simply have no hard, scientifically verifiable facts for or against either.

I have rebuilt engines for 35 years, and have never seen definitive proof of damage from ANY oil, if the proper grade was used.

I believe using the correct grade and rating of oil and changing it at reasonable intervals is more important, at least in most cases, than what BRAND is used.

It's like Ford and Chevy (not to mention Dodge), or RED and GREEN. To the die-hard supporters of each, their brand can do no wrong, and the "other guys" can do no right.

I especially find the comments funny from guys who say something like "I bought a (BRAND X) car or tractor in 1963, an it was a lemon, so I'll never by another "Brand X" product". I guess they think things don't change in 30 or 40 years.

And then there's the guys who are a life-long, say Chevy man, and then up and by a Ford, or vice-versa, and then @#$&% about it from day-one. They had a pre-conceived notion they were gonna HATE the other brand, and then fulfill it by buying one anyway!

That being said, I have owned a variety of vehicle and machinery brands over the years, and can't say I've EVER had a truly troublesome or all-around BAD one.

When you read some peoples' coments against certain brands, you really wonder what bad luck they've had to be so vitriolic!

Of course, like they used to say, some people would @#$&% if you hung them with a new rope!


Charles(Mo)    Posted 02-05-2005 at 16:45:59       [Reply]  [No Email]
Bo, you are correct. I guess I don't like change sometimes. It was just habit to stop at walmart on my way home from work and get the oil I needed, from time to time.

But as for the fram filters, I won't use them. Read reports on oil filters and have some good friends that are mechanicsm and fram is next to nothing, sometimes worse because they have a reputation of breaking down. My car and pickup aren't worth a lot but I want to use products that I have faith in.


bo    Posted 02-05-2005 at 16:56:15       [Reply]  [No Email]
I know what you mean. If I've been getting a brand from the same place and they stopped carrying it, I'd be upset also.

As far as Fram goes, I've read all the reports and even the articles where they cut apart different brand filters and compared them. Yup...they make Fram look pretty bad. Seriously, I've never had a problem with them..some of my stuff is really old and well used also.

I suppose it's different strokes for different folks.


Charles(Mo)    Posted 02-05-2005 at 17:21:00       [Reply]  [No Email]
Yeah Bo, you're probably right. If I have a choice, I won't use fram. But they are probably ok. It's just me.


~Lenore    Posted 02-05-2005 at 17:42:04       [Reply]  [No Email]

Well by golly you guys get an award of excellence!
You agreed to disagree without getting ugly.
That is great!!


Charles(Mo)    Posted 02-05-2005 at 18:49:29       [Reply]  [No Email]
hey Lenore, who do you think will win the super bowl? I think it will be the Patriots over the Eagles 31-17.


~Lenore    Posted 02-05-2005 at 19:54:38       [Reply]  [No Email]
I don't have a favorite in this game,
but I hope it will be a good game!
A close real competitive game would be great.
I like good equally balanced teams in a big game like this.
Unless one of my favorites is playing then lopsided is OK if my team is winning. LOL


bo    Posted 02-05-2005 at 18:41:36       [Reply]  [No Email]
What's to get ugly about? He likes Motocraft, I like Fram......which is better won't make a wit of difference to him nor to me.


Bob    Posted 02-05-2005 at 18:49:54       [Reply]  [No Email]
I wonder who actually makes the Motorcraft oil filters.


Charles(Mo)    Posted 02-05-2005 at 19:42:58       [Reply]  [No Email]
Bob, I found several places that say Purolator makes the motorcraft filter.


GeorgiaGent    Posted 02-05-2005 at 17:40:29       [Reply]  [Send Email]
ive often wondered hec far ive even pondered and almost got lost,anywho ive tried and tried to figure why folks shop at that place


Bob    Posted 02-05-2005 at 17:49:24       [Reply]  [No Email]
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"ive often wondered hec far ive even pondered and almost got lost,anywho ive tried and tried to figure why folks shop at that place "
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Well, my rural area, after Wally World was here for a couple of years, there aren't many alternative places left to shop for many items!


GeorgiaGent    Posted 02-05-2005 at 17:59:37       [Reply]  [Send Email]
country products.com,country outfitters.com,calvinkline.com,vt countrystore.com,its all on the www.


Clod    Posted 02-05-2005 at 17:48:41       [Reply]  [No Email]
I would like to see the facts on Fram filters.Often folks hear another say something and it is passed around the country as fact. Also A person told me ..I dont know this as fact>>You can buy oil cheaper at the auto parts stores>(THE BIG ONES)Cheaper than at Wallmarts.Maybe filters too.But this could be more rumors. Yes Lenore,People do not get to riled up over filters.


Charles(Mo)    Posted 02-05-2005 at 18:06:23       [Reply]  [No Email]
I read a Consumers Guide report on oil filters and a few other independent studies over the years. I suppose a person can search the internet and find some things about oil filters.

I know that I am brand loyal. But I like brands that have worked for me and performed well. Motorcraft has worked well for me and I plan on sticking with it.


Clod    Posted 02-06-2005 at 04:13:14       [Reply]  [No Email]
These days you never know about brands.Sometimes you can trace down where a product is made.Most are made in China and stamped as they hit the shore here. Brands once was a way to tell if a product is high quality or shoddy. I tend to be like Wiley Cayote and buy Acme and Ajax products at bargain prices.Atleast you can be sure you have bought a shoody product but paid less for it because the reputation has priced it in the lower catagories.


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