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Using All-Nighter wood stove-problem
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Lawrence    Posted 02-06-2005 at 15:16:11       [Reply]  [Send Email]
Please could use input and advise. I have moved to a new home (bought used after inspection). I have been using my wood stove this winter (an All-Nighter).

I noticed a foul smelling black liquid seeping out of the base of the chimney. The wood stove has a flue attached to the side of the chimney.

What is this liquid (creosol?). Is this a sign of repairs needed? If so, can I wait until spring? There is only a slow leak that dries after a period of time-the smell is bad though.
I have cleaned out twice the creosol traps at the base of the chimney twice this winter.

I could really use some advise and suggestions. We have added a quick set concrete compound around the base of the chimney-which stopped most of the leaking-but it recently returned and seeps out through the concrete only in a few fine lines. I hope this does not mean something is seriously wrong with the chimney. We just bought the house a few months ago. Please help. Thank you.

Lawrence
lroberge@map.com


mike mccarroll    Posted 02-12-2009 at 11:16:35       [Reply]  [Send Email]
i have ALLNIGHTER stove that is the name on the door a pitcher of a cabin in the woods i need a new door if anybody can help that WOOD be nice thanks THE FISH


matthew burke    Posted 01-22-2009 at 14:29:02       [Reply]  [No Email]
would u like 2 get rid of the stove i'm lookingn for a source of heat in my garage


Stephanie    Posted 11-21-2008 at 18:53:25       [Reply]  [Send Email]
I acquired a All Nighter Stove "Moe STD.". We were wanting to sell it. Can anyone let us know a fair price to sell it for.


Kelly Hill    Posted 08-04-2008 at 17:54:28       [Reply]  [Send Email]
I am purchasing a used All-Nighter wood stove for my home. However, there is no owner's manual, and before I have the stove installed, I need to obtain a manual. Can anyone tell me where I can find an owner's manual? Thank you -
Kelly


Ed    Posted 03-22-2008 at 12:51:50       [Reply]  [Send Email]
I have an all nighter wood stove. Trying to purchase home owners insurance and their asking me for the specs on the stove.. I bought the house with the stove already installed , and the last owners threw the installation booklet away. I need to know if anyone has a installation booklet that explains the amount of space needed between the stove and walls and if you are willing to fax it to me


al smith    Posted 03-10-2009 at 18:01:53       [Reply]  [Send Email]
the general rule is 3 ft away from combustibles.
Commonsense is worth alot. Anything that will burn move away from. A free standing metal shield reduces distance. al


rosa gonzaalez    Posted 11-27-2008 at 12:16:18       [Reply]  [Send Email]
they are back of the stove


Jane Robichaud    Posted 11-27-2007 at 02:35:44       [Reply]  [Send Email]
Hello , would it be possible to receive an owners manual ? iether on line or by mail ? would be greatly appreciated , thank You Jane


rosa gonzalez    Posted 11-27-2008 at 12:18:40       [Reply]  [Send Email]
I need it too thanks


Ali Peterson    Posted 11-04-2007 at 15:09:17       [Reply]  [Send Email]
Help! We have an All-Nighter problem, too. We need a replacement round cap that sits on the front, an air vent adjuster I guess. The company is out of business and I don't know who to contact who might have an old part lying around. None of the stoves on the market now seem to have that same design.


Fern(Mi)    Posted 02-06-2005 at 17:42:25       [Reply]  [No Email]
My Wood Stove experience:
What on earth are you burning. A rain cap is helpfull.
The following is my umpteen odd years living with wood stoves and fireplaces. Have heated home and shop all my life with wood. This what I have learned.

Most important is the fuel.
Start off by burning seasoned hardwood, Air dried for a year if necessary.
All woods dry at different rates. Ash about 30 days, cherry about 60 days, maples and oaks several months, fruit woods like mulberry can take from 2 thru 4 yrs. Willow who knows? Poplarís vary with the wood-pulp variety often called gopher wood. Put a piece in the stove and go for more, and burns best if rained or snowed on.

It is easier to cut green wood rather than dried.

Pine dried makes a good kindling. Is also full of sap. Sap equals creosote. And can foul up a chimney closing the flue opening restricting draft. Pine should only be burned when a flue is hot. Hot flues also burn out easier. Using these facts I have planned chimney fires during midwinter show storms for fire safety reasons. Doing this a couple times each heating season I have never had to clean a chimney. AND. I have tried. Made the tools, finding other uses for them elsewhere.
I burn about 3 cords wood more or less each season.
NOTE: Clearly number one concern over burning wood is a safe solid chimney and heavy enough attachments between the stove and that chimney.
Also of concern are stove to wall clearances. Vented cement wall boards, masonry floor covering, baffled stove pipe , adequate ceiling joist and rafter clearances. Personally, I double shield all my metal-bastes pipe installations to any near by wood surfaces. And over all everything annual inspections are important.
My sixty-sum years of memoried experiences.
Fernan



bruce    Posted 04-11-2007 at 13:56:15       [Reply]  [Send Email]
dear fernan, i also have an all nighter wood stove and have questions on using it. i have on ly been burning wood for 2 years. its my only heat source. is it possible for you to call me, and i will call you back so i am paying for the call. 914 636 2110 thanks much bruce in new rochelle n.y.


Richard Michaud    Posted 01-25-2008 at 19:10:49       [Reply]  [No Email]
I burn an all nighter wood stove. My technique to burning it is to try keeping the stove pipe at a temperature between 300 and 550 degrees so that creosote will burn off and not build up in the stove pipe or chimney. Burning wood at a low temperature or dampering the stove too low, causing the wood to just smolder, is what I found caused a major problem with creosote build up when I first started to burn. I keep a stove pipe thermometer held on by a magnet at all times to monitor temperature of the stove pipe. They are sold at hardware stores or woodstove shops.


deadcarp    Posted 02-06-2005 at 17:14:05       [Reply]  [No Email]
we get quite a few chimney problems up here, probly cuz mn gets so cold and it's hard to keep one clean. usually a decent chimney will be unharmed by a chimney fire, which lites during cold spells when the chimney gets hotter than it's used to.

thing to remember, it takes lotsa cool smoke almost plugging a chimney to lite one up. if it starts roaring like a jet, you probly have a chimney fire. not the ideal thing but not the end of the world either. bundle up, climb up top & toss rock salt in, it just should be dampened some to avoid overheating the chimney & cracking the tile liner.

in your boat, first thing, make sure the chimney's clear. wait til a sunny day, then slip a hand mirror in the cleanout and angle it so you can look up the chimney. you'll be able to see any dislodged tiles, creosote buildup and that sorta thing, then if cleaning seems in order, (when the fire's out), climb up top & drop 1 end of a log chain down there and rattle it around to knock off any clinkers that threaten to plug it up. i've never used one, but it might be worth burning one of those chimney-cleaning logs first. clean it at the cleanout.

now that you're pretty sure the chimney breathes, run a hot stove fire for like 4 hours to heat the chimney enough to get rid of the junk. leave the ladder in place & have an ice cream pail of rock salt handy up top. any remaining restrictions should harmlessly burn, bottom ones first, as the chimney gets hot. . however if you start a chimney fire doing this, dump in a couple handfuls of salt to tame it down. with practice, you can keep a moderate fire going in the chimney to burn the creosote/fly ash. maybe the chimney log will have fixed it already. i'd cover the rock salt pail, fasten the ladder & leave it up there - at least in winter. enjoy yer stove. :)


Clipper    Posted 02-06-2005 at 15:25:29       [Reply]  [No Email]
You should have a rain cap on yer chimney.....this will keep the rain from coming down into yer chimney and washing creosote down to the base of the chimney. What you are describing is exactly the problem I had at my last house....once the chimney cap was in place the problem went away. Just mah 2 cents.....


naz    Posted 02-06-2005 at 15:39:02       [Reply]  [Send Email]
Also to add to the chimney cap,if you burn low heat fire and smoulder over night the moisture and creosote will run into your cleanout and seep in as you described.Make sure you have a good bed of coals and hot flue at night before loading up and closing it down.Hope it helps.
Naz


toolman    Posted 02-06-2005 at 16:08:59       [Reply]  [No Email]
hey naz you still able to get coal to burn down there , that made for good heat.


naz    Posted 02-06-2005 at 16:16:25       [Reply]  [Send Email]
Hi Toolman,yep lots of coal,all strip mined in the area now,not many folks burning it for heat though.I burned a couple bags that were here in the house(about 40 years old),sure throws a heat.


toolman    Posted 02-06-2005 at 16:57:24       [Reply]  [No Email]
thats all we ever used when we live there , springhill coal until the mines went down then we would go to the coal dump and pick ,but when they would bring a a couple of train cars of cape breton coal in we,d go down at night and sundays , trip the chutes on the bottom , just about the whole neighbourhood would get in on it, just about clean them cars out lol, least we stayed warm and figured the coal company owed us that since they took so many men.


naz    Posted 02-06-2005 at 17:12:54       [Reply]  [Send Email]
Yes i heard of people digging their own coal,lots of those shafts still around one of the towns here.Buddy of mine lives across from the area,says there's new sink hole there every year.


toolman    Posted 02-06-2005 at 17:51:51       [Reply]  [No Email]
they used to haul waste (rock) etc.out in carsand dump it in a huge bank that they built a rail line along the top as the waste dump grew the line was extended and of course there was lots of coal mixed in , easy to get as kids we would make good money picking coal and selling it,.this dump caught fire just after we moved and burned for years they couldn,t get it out finally the N.S. and feds.put serious money into it because of the air pollution and i think it,s out now. most of springhill has tunnells running under it.


HOGMAN    Posted 02-06-2005 at 15:58:34       [Reply]  [No Email]
Forget about it bein an "ALL NIGHT" contraption! Don't load it up, unless Your very Young with an exceptional Bladder capicity,When Ya get up ta go p stop by tha furnace'n stoke it. Also th mention of a GOOD BED OF COALS is very important.
At My Age I am up often so no problem in stoking often which is realy needed with a TWO Story Chimney,thing has a hard time keepin hot all tha way up. Also, Keep it clean! Air tight is a two edge sword, ya gotta walk a fine line.
Mine is Wood C/A,can run gas, 300K btu...another story another time.


99    Posted 02-06-2005 at 16:10:09       [Reply]  [No Email]
in your line of work it,s a good thing you sleep with one eye open all tha time.


0067/8 EVER VIGILENT    Posted 02-06-2005 at 18:41:54       [Reply]  [No Email]
Absolutely! We must adhere to tha Code!!!!


TB    Posted 02-06-2005 at 15:49:47       [Reply]  [No Email]
If it is that case. The chimny Probibly needs cleaned also.


99    Posted 02-06-2005 at 16:10:53       [Reply]  [No Email]
we don,t do chimneys.


TB    Posted 02-06-2005 at 16:17:53       [Reply]  [No Email]
was woundering what happened to you. I was getting ready to put out a APB on you


99    Posted 02-06-2005 at 16:59:17       [Reply]  [No Email]
you knoe us, we travell light an fast ask ole whats his name there ole 6 7/8,s.


0067/8    Posted 02-06-2005 at 18:52:06       [Reply]  [No Email]
Hey I even sent smoke signals up there thinkin at least one'a tha Horses would send a neigh er two sayin things was alrite but recon Collie ain't let'im put that puter out in tha barn yet. Now were it Mr Ed He'd'a comed rite back at me'n relieved Mi worried mind doncha noe!


99    Posted 02-06-2005 at 18:54:50       [Reply]  [No Email]
horses in the barn , thats my place when i ain,t in the dog house.


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