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And here's ... yet, once    Posted 02-11-2005 at 17:00:39       [Reply]  [No Email]
Puldeau has offered his apology and I am once more, apologizing to you ..on his behalf. I do believe that some of you folks have done a bang up job with abusing myself, and a man that truly loved visiting these forums, and sharing in a wealth of knowledge that he’s found posted here, many times!

That said, and sadly disappointingly so .. he’s also learned that cyber livelihood, here at kountrylife is truly not unique, after all.

Seems that some folks .. took great strides in assuring they had a proverbial ‘field day’ with puldeau and myself – between yourselves.

For you to assume that puldeau personally needed ‘pastels’, and another person or two further suggested that he, personally needed to open some curtains to allow some light into what you folks deemed was a dark/dreary life – was ludicrously unjustified!
Puldeau had clearly stated, at the bottom of his post - that the poem was (copied). However, what I thought was so needless - was, that some of you folks took the poem completely out of context and freely opted to make a lackluster brilliant assumption, that it was puldeau with a personal problem. DD .. you, even participated in that freelance stroll, yourself.

Seems no one sought to remotely consider, nor acknowledge, the art and talent that someone had indeed possessed, in describing the ‘attributes’ of Hell.

Insult began, when these folks .. opted to freely choose to pay greater attention to the very obvious duplicate ISP addresses displaying, for puldeau and myself .. and, it further ignited into becoming the delight, the toy and the big ultimate ‘issue’ for the immature buzzards.

Insult to injury .. is when some decided to make the entire ‘do you see, what I see’ into somewhat of a ‘spectacle’ .. by deliberately imitating the ‘duplicate’ ISP addresses by changing names and continuing to post their replies!

I clearly asked that you reveal .. your apparently ‘way off’ and infantile speculations!! But, nope, these same asinine, moronic, hi-tech ballistic neanderthals …. merely insisted on continuing to play ‘catch’ with strictly one another instead! DD .. even you, seemingly took pleasure in giving rise to the ‘notice anything?’ issue! For you too, continued in the revelry .. only to eventually say, g’nite .. moments later.

Hogman is the single mature and gallant soul .. that even remotely weighed considering the meaning of the artists poem, or the reasons for its post, by puldeau!

Puldeau .. has made many statements to me - commending the many of you .. that seem
brilliantly, computer knowledgeable and internet savvy .... Yet, your brains must have gathered excess fog, developed a snafu, or simply went on the fritz - to have clearly chosen to rule out the distinct possibilities, that a few folks DO indeed, share internet access, since having our own pc’s networked via DSL modems and routers .. AND, who incidentally, happens to share many mutual interests in some particular web sites!

Ah, perhaps you folks believe that this is merely one of those rhetorical questions, or, perhaps the case may merely be, that the brain was not the particular anatomical organ of which your thoughts and genius were being processed!

Christians are well aware of the ongoing plight and duty .. to those that have not come to know God Almighty. Attempting to rationalize the very real existence of Hell .. to some folks by painting life as pastels is one thing.

Now, I must ask .. what pray tell may have seemingly compelled you .. to even half-heartedly opt to give some mild form of consideration - that I and puldeau, may not be one in the same PERSONS after all -?- Hence, your kindly gracing me (D’lane – the one with the same ISP address tonight, as puldeau and I shared the other night!) … with somewhat of a more humane reply .. ? ..

And yes, even for tonight - the quote below, applies to me - just as much, if not more so.

People will forget what you said. People will forget what you did ..
But people will NEVER forget how you made them feel.
- Author Unknown –

However, the tad lil difference is .. I am and have .. fully acknowledged you folks .. by, speaking my ‘piece’ to you .. and neither I, nor puldeau ... have not ever been playing
silly imbecilic games with any of you.

And your clear disregard and lack of reciprocal respect – that you ultimately ‘displayed’ the other night – most ironically, has truly said quite a truck load!

… Thanks …


Clear D'lane II    Posted 02-11-2005 at 19:42:26       [Reply]  [No Email]

RE: … Posted by Yup on February 11, 2005 at 17:35:53 from (68.184.237.78):
………. If anyone read or reads that thread, I would love to hear your opinions if anything the two of us posted was hurtful. I dont believe it was but then again I know what my intentions were when I wrote what I did. Thanks Mark.

D’lane: Read carefully > It has not the been what was SAID specifically – it what wasn’t!! Any one elses’ opinions about a thread that they’ve had absolutely nothing to do with, via any further posts or replies – is totally irrelevant. And doin’ so here, at (your sanctimonious request Mark) – it’s yours .. so, have a ball !! I, am not interested! For such requests .. rank with closing the barn door after the animals are out and gone!

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Peanut .. your reply has not gone by the wayside …

RE: I restrained from the last blast you put out D'Lane. I will not from this one.

( a ) D’lane: Blast, I have not. Calling attention to something that was totally uncalled for – I am indeed so! .. Refraining from opening your mouth now -?- goodness, what on earth could’ve ever coerced you into considering doing anything otherwise, at this juncture, or .. back then? ‘Restraint’ – now, there’s another interesting concept.

Peanut .. stop and take a look at your own ‘blast’ you’re firing now .. and see that I’ve used and referenced the distinctly particular word > ‘SOME’ folks .. within the context of my initial post .. and many times!!

RE: I cannot change how you feel or felt from the previous post. I (yes, I) posted the message about noticing the same IP address. Do I feel bad about it? No. Should I feel bad about it? No (in my mind). It was an observation only. Was I trying to hurt you or puldeau? No. That was furthest from my mind and certainly not my intention.

( b ) D’lane: Precisely! .. There was nothing said or revealed then, and only a few moments ago I’ve returned to the prior thread – for the 10th time since my post here, as labeled - - - - - and STILL - - you nor anyone else .. has even attempted to rectify that same ‘NOTHING’ back there, either!!

No, I certainly have not ‘expected’ you to feel anything. For if you had - you’d have surely opened your closed mouth then, and said something. So yes sir, by your lack of actions, then on the referenced thread – and STILL nothing there yet – has, indeed .. said a quite a bit!

RE: This is where typing characters on a keyboard fails to reveal the true nature of the message. Nothing in my posts were meant to harm, offend, or mock. I sincerely wondered why a "dark and dreary" (yes, my words) post was put out there. I did not understand it.

RE: I wondered if puldeau was OK. I sincerely wanted to know.

( c ) D’lane: Goodness .... You wondered really loud .. why didn’t you just ask him?

RE: You may or may not know that puldeau has responded to my posts before with helpful information ... namely the thread I started about log homes. I meant nothing harmful with my comments. If you are upset about them, I truly am sorry.

( d ) D’lane: And your particular reasons .. in mentioning to me, any correspondence to/with puldeau now .. is to serve in what capacity? .. Sorta like watchin’ your neighbors house burn, and yell “call 911” .. but continue to sit on your duff!

RE: If you are trying to stoke the fire and see what type of reaction you will get, you have achieved your goal.

( e ) D’lane: stoke or prevent ? .. I’m totally unsure what you, yourself .. are presently attempting to do .. Or, are you perhaps referring to the fire that perhaps you, may have attributed in preventing .. on the original referenced thread - - or, how you may have inadvertently, aided in ‘stoking’ that one, yourself ?

RE: It is not my intention to hurt anyone on this or any other board. Perhaps the Christian in you will understand that instead of trying to flame me and DD.

( f ) D’lane: Ones ‘intention’ .. ranks right there, with sometimes failing to acting upon it .. and, has sometimes been the root of inflicting just as much damage and harm ..

RE: As for trying to figure out why multiple messages were posted from the same IP, aren't you interested too? Mrs Peanut and I post from the same IP when we are both online. Does that make us the same person? Hardly. If you'll re-read that thread, no one insinutated you two were the same.

( g ) D’lane: Your mere mention of such, here .. as a reply to my vociferous post .. only serves to justify the concerns, Peanut! You claim, that you and your mrs., share an internet connection - - why on earth would you have opted to refrain to speak up and suggest to any others .. that this may be the same situation posed with me and puldeau?

RE: Instead you decided to post another thread implying the rest of us know nothing about home networks. You basically called us (well me anyway) stupid.


( h ) D’lane: You are taking my words out of context and attempting to apply any of them the way you so choose – is not an issue for me. And furthermore, deserves no more attention than what YOU, sir .. may care to give it .. all on your own! Besides, you yourself have let the proverbial cat out of the bag .. in a prior statement, that you did know! Straddling the fence can become quite uncomfortable …

RE: Sound very Christian to you? The fact that I can do reasonably well at noticing little details and poking around on the internet does not make me bad or hurtful ... certainly not stupid.

RE: Your implications are quite the opposite of the Christian message you claim to have been trying to convey.

( i ) D’lane: My message has been .. that some folks behaved rather callously. The conversation was dropped like a hot potato – once the attention was deliberately drawn to ALL .. about you guys noticing the identical ISP addresses - but couldn’t open your mouths to speak, but simply hastening the babble and attention to noticing the peculiarities! ..

Your deemed ideas, about ‘my’ christianity .. is not up for discussion, with me.

RE: - Peanut, real name Larry.

( j ) D’lane: I’d have most assuredly been delighted to have been able to have been given the opportunity to say “hello”, and perhaps to follow up with “nice to meet you!” .. Seems that privilege was most willingly yanked away also ...

- signed, the same as have been all along .. and, continually .. D’lane


Peanut    Posted 02-11-2005 at 20:20:47       [Reply]  [No Email]
What makes you think you are the sole contributor to moral/immoral behavior? What makes you think you are in any position to judge another based on your beliefs?

What makes you think I (or anyone else) has to rectify anything. My first thought and potential response to you is: “Bite me”. However, I feel there is much more to be discussed here. If an individual expresses an opinion for or against a particular topic of discussion, where does rectification come into the discussion?

If you agree with the discussion, is it an acceptable conclusion?

If you do not agree with the discussion, are you personally attacked and feel you need an apology?

You, the devout Christian supported a post by puldeau (whom I have nothing against). In doing so you decided to rule/judge/convict a small group of people of whom I am a main player.

Do you realize this entire thread (that we are involved in now) is a result of a sincere concern for puldeau? Since you decided to quote me in your reply I will, once again state my intentions:

I wanted to make sure puldeau was in good spirits. Something you apparently do not care to do. I posted a sincere message and all you posted were kerosene messages to fuel the impending fire. Way to go D’Lane.

I did not reply to your original flame message because it would be childish and aide a lost cause. Apparently you were too afraid to address me personally, so you decided to attack the group hoping the source would reveal itself.

Well, you got what you wanted. I was not hiding in the first place, I chose to back out You have now brought this back up and I’m tired of it.


Let’s talk about being a good Christian shall we …

Don’t you ever, I mean ever, assume that I would watch a home burn while simply calling 911. You are showing me Your true colors. Is this your message of Christianity? That was what you and puldeau were trying to offer on the first post … right?

What gives you the right to think you can post these things about me? You do not know a single thing about me other than your silly derived opinions from these posts. I seriously doubt you are the Christian you claim to be. Least not in the books and testaments I have read.

Don’t think you are off the hook D’Lane. If I honestly did have the chance to meet you face-to-face, and go through the “opportunity to say ‘Hello’”, I believe I would walk away from you without another word being spoken between us.

I go back to my original thought … “Bite Me” … simple and yet at the same time quite reasonable.


Oh yeah - there's more    Posted 02-11-2005 at 20:43:15       [Reply]  [No Email]
Hey D'Lane:

Let's also talk about your hypocrisy:

Your religion teaches tolerance? Forgiveness?

Does it also teach you to understand the meaning of typed word on the internet? I doubt it. Here is the problem we face:

Two people converse in an open-dialogue forum. Everything that is meant to be said is spoken. All the emotion and feeling to accompany the dialogue are apparent.

Here is where we are now:

Two people on the Internet. No open dialogue. No emotion until you read the text. How odd is that? Well, we can spin and spin and spin that text into something it is NOT. Then we’ll post it on the internet so a bunch of people will see it.

Wonderful version of Christianity you are pedaling there D’Lane. I sure hope it is the Beta version that gets the bugs worked out before release to the public.

And by the way – I have no interest in meeting you and trying to befriend you. No hard feelings of course >>>>> just simple thinking to those of us who aren’t as smart as you portray yourself to be. That’s too bad because puldeau has always answered my posts with knowledge, respect, and sincerity. It’s a shame you can’t do the same.



Well D'Lane?    Posted 02-11-2005 at 18:51:25       [Reply]  [No Email]
I am more than willing to discuss this further. So far, I have seen the "hit and run" approach to differences of opinion.

I am willing to discuss this with you without your implied stupidity and your public attempts to flame me. Yes, I guess you can say I am "calling you out".

If you have more to add, which I am sure you do, to the dialogue, please do. Let's get this in the open so it can be resolved.


Forgot to Sign It - Again    Posted 02-11-2005 at 18:52:20       [Reply]  [No Email]
See what I mean? I forgot again.

- Peanut


James(Ga)    Posted 02-11-2005 at 17:23:55       [Reply]  [No Email]

I must have missed a post or someting, i am almost always on line until 12-12:30 at night and dont remember this.However i never disrespect or make light of anyone where i agree or disagree.


Peanut    Posted 02-11-2005 at 17:23:21       [Reply]  [No Email]
I restrained from the last blast you put out D'Lane.

I will not from this one.

I cannot change how you feel or felt from the previous post. I (yes, I) posted the message about noticing the same IP address. Do I feel bad about it? No. Should I feel bad about it? No (in my mind). It was an observation only.

Was I trying to hurt you or puldeau? No. That was furthest from my mind and certainly not my intention.

This is where typing characters on a keyboard fails to reveal the true nature of the message. Nothing in my posts were meant to harm, offend, or mock. I sincerely wondered why a "dark and dreary" (yes, my words) post was put out there. I did not understand it. I wondered if puldeau was OK. I sincerely wanted to know. You may or may not know that puldeau has responded to my posts before with helpful information ... namely the thread I started about log homes. I meant nothing harmful with my comments.

If you are upset about them, I truly am sorry.

If you are trying to stoke the fire and see what type of reaction you will get, you have achieved your goal.

It is not my intention to hurt anyone on this or any other board. Perhaps the Christian in you will understand that instead of trying to flame me and DD.

As for trying to figure out why multiple messages were posted from the same IP, aren't you interested too? Mrs Peanut and I post from the same IP when we are both online. Does that make us the same person? Hardly. If you'll re-read that thread, no one insinutated you two were the same. Instead you decided to post another thread implying the rest of us know nothing about home networks. You basically called us (well me anyway) stupid. Sound very Christian to you? The fact that I can do reasonably well at noticing little details and poking around on the internet does not make me bad or hurtful ... certainly not stupid.

Your implications are quite the opposite of the Christian message you claim to have been trying to convey.

- Peanut, real name Larry.


Willy-N    Posted 02-11-2005 at 17:31:47       [Reply]  [No Email]
I allways leave my name with my posts and the same handle. That way every one knows who it is. My ISP is allways the same since it is a small place I live in. Figure if I have something worth saying might as well know who said it. Sometimes I only think it is worth saying but what the heck. Never could figure why someone won't use there name or same handle what are they afraid of? Mark H.


Yup    Posted 02-11-2005 at 17:35:53       [Reply]  [No Email]
I am especially bad at forgetting to sign my posts. Most people probably know my IP ranges by now though. With my silly sense of humor, I assume I have been traced many times over. That's fine by me.

I just don't understand the repeated flaming of DD and me. If anyone read or reads that thread, I would love to hear your opinions if anything the two of us posted was hurtful. I dont believe it was but then again I know what my intentions were when I wrote what I did.

Thanks Mark.


Willy-N    Posted 02-11-2005 at 17:59:28       [Reply]  [No Email]
Since I don't rely belive in heII the discription to me in the post seemed strange and kind of funny. This will get a few going but my beleifs in the higher power are confused. Please don't try to change me I have a whole list of reason why and would get nowhere discusing it with another firm beliver. We each have our ideas on the subject. I just hate to get in the middle of it. Mark H.


Mrs peanut    Posted 02-11-2005 at 17:48:15       [Reply]  [No Email]
Mark, your response to the thread "The bog of eternal stench" was light hearted and REALLY funny. I for one love your sense of humor. %*)


D


toolman    Posted 02-11-2005 at 18:14:25       [Reply]  [No Email]
careful denise, the fun police are out an about tonigh i hear.


Well...    Posted 02-11-2005 at 18:34:34       [Reply]  [No Email]
I have yet to make it through a dance without stepping on a few toes...

D




toolman    Posted 02-11-2005 at 18:37:23       [Reply]  [No Email]
hmm me too and i wear my loggers boots lol.


Ouch!    Posted 02-11-2005 at 18:54:45       [Reply]  [No Email]
Stilettos don't feel so hot on yer feet either..LOL
Remind me never to ask ya for a dance..hehe

D


toolman    Posted 02-11-2005 at 19:00:24       [Reply]  [No Email]
Stilettos, hmmm i don,t think they would feel to good on my feets either, oh you meant yours , well i guess we could always swap footware and try an enjoy a dance,lol.


Ok Perdy....    Posted 02-11-2005 at 19:16:05       [Reply]  [No Email]
You have a date...

D


toolman    Posted 02-11-2005 at 19:56:23       [Reply]  [No Email]
ok we,ll all to pr and in the meantime i,ll take lessons lol.


Dear Thanks    Posted 02-11-2005 at 17:11:44       [Reply]  [No Email]
I respect your feelings but would you mind identifying yourelf so that I may determine what comments you made apply to me and which ones don't. I do not open all of the posts. I didn't read the Union or the Wal-Mart and other posts. So If anything happened in those posts, I missed out on reading them. My name is Oslo. Let me know what, if anything, you have to say about me. Thank you

Oslo in NC


D'lane    Posted 02-11-2005 at 20:04:58       [Reply]  [No Email]
For: .. ‘ Oslo ‘.. Posted by Dear Thanks on February 11, 2005 at 17:11:44 from (24.176.90.119):

Oslo ..

I am certain that you are not one, in any rotten egg basket.

I sincerely request that you give consideration to accepting my earnest apologies. For I should have given far more thought, well before hand, as to not allow my 'note' to be so randomly and generally addressed .. and risk encompassing those of which my note was not intended.

My primary objective .. was soleyfor my 'chapter' to be seen - and to not risk being dropped off the web face of kountrylife.com ...


D'lane


oslo    Posted 02-11-2005 at 22:40:18       [Reply]  [No Email]
D'lane; I don't need to give consideration to your apology, seriously or otherwise. Apology, accepted, but you did not have to apologize. I am merely trying to hear from Net Gen, who I apparently upset about one of my posts. I would just like to hear from him so that we can straighten out our problem.


D'lane    Posted 02-12-2005 at 10:01:18       [Reply]  [No Email]
Oslo ..

Yes sir, I did indeed feel, that I needed to apologize to you! For I did lack better judgement in that particular post/thread. And I am most ashamed in that respect .. and the effects it may have had on you.

Your very sweet and kind sentiments are most overwhelmingly humbly appreciated.

I further hope that the difficulty that you've mentioned manages to get resolved, for all parties sake.

((hugs)) And, again .. thank you!

D'lane


For those who care to rea    Posted 02-11-2005 at 17:41:28       [Reply]  [No Email]
Here is the original thread.

I am not trying to stir the pot. I am trying to calm it down.

- Peanut


Peanut    Posted 02-11-2005 at 17:43:39       [Reply]  [No Email]
Sorry Oslo,

I did not mean to post under your reply. I meant to put it under my first reply. Sorry to drag you into this.


gran    Posted 02-11-2005 at 17:07:32       [Reply]  [No Email]
What he say????????????????????????


Les    Posted 02-11-2005 at 17:04:08       [Reply]  [No Email]
Thankfully, I have no idea what this post is about and I don't know who posted it either. So I'm doubly relieved. ";^)


Salmoneye    Posted 02-12-2005 at 03:59:16       [Reply]  [No Email]
I see the OP has issues...

Thankfully, like you, I have no clue what they are...And I even read slowly...



toolman    Posted 02-11-2005 at 17:57:07       [Reply]  [No Email]
me neither and you , i nor burr were involved , progress?lol


Torch    Posted 02-11-2005 at 17:59:40       [Reply]  [No Email]
Yep, I guess I am carrying the torch now.

Keep your credit card handy toolman. At least keep Kim's email addy handy so when I get banned I can come sulking back. (grin)


toolman    Posted 02-11-2005 at 18:30:35       [Reply]  [No Email]
no problem buddy , i don,t think you did anything wrong, maybe we should stick to the newbies forum or rons home place, sometimes it just don,t seem worth it does it?


HOGMAN.. SHUCKS FOLKS    Posted 02-11-2005 at 19:36:26       [Reply]  [No Email]
After readin and rereadin I still fail ta see what tha bickerins all about and with few exceptions it was hardly that.
I liked tha Poem which same had been written by someone else and stand on my statement that if it caused even one Person to stop and think (or words to that effect).
But, I read tha works of Eddy A POE in tha 4th and 5th grades and now that I've bared that horrifin fact,might as well admit to a liken for Bobby Service specially stuff like "Please Mother don't stab Father with the Bread knife", Service was a literary Giant..dare I mention Baxter Black, I even read Ivanhoe twic't,,,,,


toolman    Posted 02-11-2005 at 19:55:15       [Reply]  [No Email]
you should know by now boss that there don,t need ta be any reason, ya ain,t been away that long lol, we jest likes ta fights remember ask ron he,ll tell and then theres ennis er grover er bob er ah well ya remembers.haha howdy there boss what s happening//


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