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Is there a change in the future?
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Charles(Mo)    Posted 02-11-2005 at 18:16:30       [Reply]  [No Email]
Just curious what you all think about this. We live about 5 miles from town. The town is the county seat about 4000 pop. Been that size for a hundred years. So you have an idea that we have been in a time warp. Just the way we like it. 20 miles up the highway is a larger town with the Supercenter and all the fast food places and such. So if we need anything special it ain't no big deal to go there. Matter of fact, we make the trip once a week at least.

Well we are getting a Supercenter. They started the dirt work a while back. Supposed to be open sometime late this summer. Right now all we have is a regular Walmart and a Hardees and McDonalds Express(not a full blown Mac just a little one)and a few specialty shops plus 1 grocery store.

How much time will it take to double the population in our little community?

grandma    Posted 02-11-2005 at 19:54:11       [Reply]  [No Email]
this a subject us "youngens"around here discusses, and cuss a lot. Our town went from 3000 to 7000 in 15 years. We have a mall ten miles down the road, two yellow boxes, etc. All the little local stores were forced to move, or give up.Most had to give up, couldn't compete. We are told this is progress, brings tax money to our county. Progress means we have a lot of people from Seattle, Redmond(you know who works there)who want to live in country. Country? we don't have any left. There are still little pockets around that are called rural. At least once a week there is someone at my door wanting to buy my acre. Cost no object.
There are still enough of us around to keep us united in a small town attitude. We take care of the kids of the people who have to have two jobs and spend two hours commuting to live in the country. Our food bank feeds them when they are let go, we have enough churches for everyone and one sports bar. So all in all I guess I can see why someone would want to live here.
I have been here for sixty years,the changes are enormous.

toolman    Posted 02-11-2005 at 19:59:56       [Reply]  [No Email]
same here got peole from calgary comming in and buying everything up , land values (taxes) rising like crazy, writing is on the wall for this place im afraid, fought it for over 20 years but now im tired and looking for some land wayyy back in the sticks .

Willy-N    Posted 02-11-2005 at 20:06:51       [Reply]  [No Email]
Your lucky your place has gone up enought that you could have a Kindom all ready built for what yours is worth! If I had $3-400,000.00 in cash I could have 200+ acres the nices house around with out buildings, barns, fences all done!! If I was in your shoes I would sell and buy a big spread in a place taxes wern't so high. Mark H.

toolman    Posted 02-11-2005 at 20:14:22       [Reply]  [No Email]
that,s what im planning on doing mark, tomorrow im headin west of here to look at some places ,id like to be out of here by summer,but only if i get a good price. i have a 5 year plan and this only year one so if it happens now great or in 5 years all the same , i won,t sell cheap or buy high just for the sake of moving, i know what i want and when i see it i,ll know .

Willy-N    Posted 02-11-2005 at 20:22:23       [Reply]  [No Email]
Save your back buy a ready made place! You can have a nice shop built like I did my Big Barn for 30,000.00 and have a place for your toys to stay in! I could not build another place like I did here getting to old to do it. The land around me will be like this till I die and longer! So this is my retirement home. Mark H.

toolman    Posted 02-11-2005 at 21:03:19       [Reply]  [No Email]
yes i know i can,t start all over again, looking at some places with a barn, shop and nice houses, and good pasture , found a bunch on the internet i,ll be looking at a bunch of them tomorrow and this place is going up next week, so we,ll see how it goes.

Willy-N    Posted 02-11-2005 at 23:02:08       [Reply]  [No Email]
Congrats! The last place I was at I thought the world of it. After moving I wonderd why I had not done it earlier!! Mark H.

HOGMAN    Posted 02-11-2005 at 18:42:12       [Reply]  [No Email]
Probably a lot less then You'd like ta believe. It took Our County Capital about 17 Years to double. It's doubled again in three. 20 Years ago We were proud of tha fact that We had many more Head of Cattle then People.
People want to live midst tha Rollin Hills and quaint Rural byways so They pour in, Dynamite tha Hills and push em over into tha Hollers to make Buildin sites,straighten those quaint Roads and turn em into four lane speedways,Wally super c's,Malls etc,speak of how wonderfull if They could just get rid of tha Hillbillies and cows so They could enjoy living tha great country life.... Forgive Me, that indeed was a RANT and I'm sorry. Now what was tha question???????

Ennis    Posted 02-11-2005 at 20:28:31       [Reply]  [No Email]
don't think a macdonalds is in the near future for your area Hoggie. Good thing too.

Arnold in 08    Posted 02-11-2005 at 20:08:29       [Reply]  [No Email]
Nother good reason to keep more Porkers Hogman. Nothin like a big nuwer pile to keep pests away.

Willy-N    Posted 02-11-2005 at 20:14:01       [Reply]  [No Email]
Becides my Daughers 18 Cows, 2 goats she is getting 8 pigs to raise for meat this year! Add to that the 4 horses it gets deep around here once in a while and down wind that is a different story when the pigs are here!! Mark H.

Willy-N    Posted 02-11-2005 at 20:02:35       [Reply]  [No Email]
Unless your kind of hick nobody wants to move here. I live in cow country and there is not enought work for the town to grow much. It is so isolated yuppies would feel lost if they moved to this place. The weather drives them out after a couple winters. In fact where I live most of the land is for sale and has been for the last 9 years!! You have to want to be isolated to enjoy this place, kids don't have much to do and can't wait to leave here. Employment is a joke so you better have a way of making a living or a good retirement check coming in. Wal-Mart is not going to change this place fast or even slow very much. Mark H.

deadcarp    Posted 02-11-2005 at 18:42:02       [Reply]  [No Email]
our county is expected to grow 7%/year for the next 10 years, the next one's 13%/yr. out west (saugus cal) our community went from 2,000 to 250,000 in 20 years. since every 1000 people need a fulltime tradesman, lotsa people retired from that.:)

Willy-N    Posted 02-11-2005 at 20:17:58       [Reply]  [No Email]
In 9 years of living here it has gone down and up by only a few people so far. The ones that are dieing from old age make up for the new ones being born. It is stagnet in Okanogan. No Jobs means no more people can move here. Mark H.

Willy-N    Posted 02-11-2005 at 18:26:05       [Reply]  [No Email]
I thought you were talking about Okanogan! It was the same here just like you said. We had a regular Wal-Mart but they built a new Surper one and tore the old one down. Nothing has changed but the store has more stuff then befor. Even has a Mc Donnels inside and there is another one accross the street? People from Canada come down to buy stuff and spend money in the town befor they go back. The store also gives money to different project are poor town can't afford to do. The town also taxes the heck out of Wal-Mart so they can sell in the town and gave around 100 jobs to people who did not have them. Did not notice any stores closing and Wal-Mart has been here for years. Mark H.

HOGMAN    Posted 02-11-2005 at 19:04:20       [Reply]  [No Email]
Mark theres nearly always an opposite. Your area is lucky. Our County Seat small,mostly Mom'n Pop stuff,dime store,stationary,cafe,barber shop etc.15 miles away a Wally world JR.Then They put in a new one joint with a big mall. One by one tha Mom's and Pops closed up. Now outside of a Grocery sub'super market and auto parts theres not much use in goin there to do any shopin. True the Population has doubled and doubled but folks drive to Wally'china ta spend their Money. It's kinda sad.

Charles(Mo)    Posted 02-11-2005 at 18:47:51       [Reply]  [No Email]
Mark, we have had the Walmart for years also. How long has your supercenter been there?

Willy-N    Posted 02-11-2005 at 19:56:25       [Reply]  [No Email]
It has been allmost a year now. Our town is allmost 100 miles from the nearest large or any real city or town so if you want something cheap it is a 200 mile trip or mail order! I mail order losts of stuff because thats what the places do around me then they mark it up. We don't buy grosries there but I pick up oil, paint, paper items, soap ect but they sure don't make much off us but the store is handy for things the other ones in town don't carry. Mark H.

toolman    Posted 02-11-2005 at 20:02:10       [Reply]  [No Email]
100 miles to where /spokane? how big is that place now i haven,t been there for a while,cour de land used to be a nice place but i hear it,s big now too.

Willy-N    Posted 02-11-2005 at 20:10:42       [Reply]  [No Email]
Spokand is 138 miles one way. Wenachee is allmost 100 miles away and that is a city to me. Cheland is not that big nor is Malott, Omak and a few other small towns on the way. Mark H.

grandma    Posted 02-11-2005 at 21:54:43       [Reply]  [No Email]
hey mark, where you at? 100 miles from Wenatchee ,through Omak? are you on the rez? I know every inche of that dry dusty country. Standered Oil wanted my husband to go to Omak to be the oil distrubter there.I said NO WAY. He started his own business in Spokane and traveled that country. Came through there two years ago, as you said ,not a lot has changed. I was raised on this side of the hill,was sure glad to get back here when he retired.

Willy-N    Posted 02-11-2005 at 23:09:27       [Reply]  [No Email]
I live on what they call the Res! I am about 12 miles outside of Okanogan East of the River up on that hill above town with the Pine Trees on the top at the 2,800 ft level. The road is called Cameron Lake Loop Road not to far from Omak Lake, Cook Lake and Cameron Lake. I lived in Southern California for 18 years but spent the last 35+ in Washington. Been on the East Side for the last 9 years and love it!! Got rid of my web feet from the West Side a while ago. Mark H.

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