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My barn - picture
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Chuck, WA    Posted 05-29-2002 at 07:16:48       [Reply]  [Send Email]

OK Mark...here you go! this is my barn as of last Saturday afternoon. A friend did the digital photography, and I got that set last night, and will get the ones from Monday later this week, so will post another when I get those. I think the caption says it all. I posted this one to show the gambrel roof shape. Will show a different angle on the next. I think a couple or three of this one could fit inside of yours! It's a real experience - first time I've built anything bigger than a chicken coop! No way I'd have tackled it without a great group of friends, especially the guy up on the platform who is serving as overall supervisor.

Hope it comes through OK - first time I've tried to post a pic here.


Mark Hendershot    Posted 05-29-2002 at 07:50:47       [Reply]  [No Email]
Chuck; Thanks for posting the picture of your future barn! Looks like you got a nice start on it. I like the Grambral deisign for you roof line too. Seeing it all come togetter is realy a good feeling. I am sure you will enjoy it. Keep us informed with more pictures of the progress. Mark H.


Picture    Posted 05-29-2002 at 07:41:17       [Reply]  [No Email]

Here you go.



DeadCarp - scissor lift?    Posted 05-29-2002 at 16:35:02       [Reply]  [No Email]
That's sure enough a nice barn, but i'm wondering how many gears forward that lift has - might come in right handy about deer season! Well, i could use it to play Michelangelo in between time. lol


Chuck, WA    Posted 05-30-2002 at 06:37:52       [Reply]  [Send Email]
Carp...one speed - very slow. And, even though it's 4x4, there were times I had to hang onto a corner to get a wheel to grab enough to move in the inch-deep powder that results when you repeatedly drive over the clay that the barn sits on. I imagine I could think of lots of things to do with it, but I'll settle for what we used it for - man, what a wonder!


Thanks Chuck,    Posted 05-29-2002 at 07:37:22       [Reply]  [No Email]
It was getting to feel like the site has become Marks Show & Tell- While I appreciate the work that went into his project, more of you other folks ought to post your success's too. I like the lift idea. Whole lot better then 'spidering'
across the top of trusses nailin off the spacin stick.


Mark Hendershot    Posted 05-29-2002 at 07:56:48       [Reply]  [No Email]
Me too! I was hoping others would show there spring projects on this site. It helps others in getting ideas for things to build on there place. This site should show more farming things being done with lots of pictures of how it is done so others can learn from it. I would love to see and here more of what others are working on around there place. Mark H.


Chuck, WA    Posted 05-29-2002 at 07:18:44       [Reply]  [Send Email]
Hmmm...no pic. It's on the photo gallery. Maybe I did something wrong. Mark...any suggestions?


Mark Hendershot    Posted 05-29-2002 at 08:04:58       [Reply]  [No Email]
Seems you got the picture to show now. Is this your design or a kit? Did you make those trusses you are useing for the roof line. The size of your barn dose not matter as long as it fits your needs. Is this going to be for horses or cows. With that design you can allways make it larger by adding on to it if you need more room. If the trusses are open you can put a loft in for more room too. Where was that you lived in Washington? Enjoy the building process! Mark H.


Chuck, WA    Posted 05-29-2002 at 10:22:35       [Reply]  [Send Email]
Mark...The barn is sort of a kit. I talked to a local builder about what I wanted - size, lean-to, windows, doors, insulation, etc. - and he gave me a preliminary drawing and cost. I about choked at around $22,000 - no excavation, electrical or plumbing. So much for the pole barns you can find in the local advertiser tabloids for $4,000 or $5,000. I also priced online and came up at about the same - a little less - so knew his price was honest. He makes no bones about it and says his bid will be higher than most since he refuses to cut corners on quality. We talked about how I could get what I wanted for less money, including buying the design and "kit" from him and building it ourselves. Actually, my friend up on the scissors platform in the picture insisted that he and other friends would help so I could get what I wanted at an affordable price. So, the builder did the final design based on my feedback, and contracted the materials, and provided the plan, submitted for the permit, etc. It's not exactly a kit since the parts aren't precut, but it's the full bill of goods with a drawing, and ongoing consultation from the builder. In fact, the other day when he dropped by, he got out his tool belt and joined right in. He said "This is fun! I never get to do this." He has also loaned us tools, gotten us rental on the Bobcat with hole auger and the scissors lift at his rental prices - that's been a huge plus that's been worth every penny.

The trusses were engineered and built by a local company to simplify the permit process. But, they were done to my ideas - the shape I preferred, and with a big opening in the middle of the two center trusses to allow for a future loft - as you pointed out.

As for the use, it will mostly be for storage and shop, a place for the tractor in winter, and implements under the lean-to. If we decide to try to harvest the grass hay off about 2-1/2 to 3 acres, we'd store it under the lean-to until friends with horses who would like to buy it need it. I expect to do a lot of shop projects outside in the summer under the shade of the lean-to. When the barn is done, we start a garage attached to the house, and about 1000 sq-ft of additional living space attached to the garage, so the barn will give me a place to support that work. But, mainly, it's an investment. We realize that someday - when we get too old to keep it up - we will have to sell the place. So, we tried to design the barn to be easily converted into a horse barn. We only have about 3-2/3 acres, but it's in an association of about 25 properties under 10 acres - almost all about 5 acres - and most folks with horses or cows. So, it's good horse property for this area, and we wanted to plan on that as an investment for the future. We really want some animals, but haven't decided what yet other than dogs and cats to try to keep the gophers under control.

I live near the Tri-Cities (Richland, Pasco, Kennewick) though my mailing address is Benton City. The Tri-Cities is on the Columbia River just upstream from where the Snake River runs into the Columbia, and the Yakima River runs into the Columbia in the middle of the three cities. I'm about 6 miles from the mouth of the Yakima, and my irrigation comes from the Yakima.

Yes, I am enjoying it, even though my body sometimes tells me I'm getting older than I'd like to think. Too many years of driving a computer without more physical exercise! :)


Justin - Pa    Posted 05-29-2002 at 14:09:00       [Reply]  [Send Email]
That barn looks just like what I would like to build in a few years...after we get our house built! We just bought 9.6 acres of farmland, and I plan on doing as much small-scale farming as I can. If you don't mind my asking, how much was it for just the kit? What is the square footage? That looks like it will be a great-looking barn when you are done!


Chuck,WA    Posted 05-29-2002 at 14:32:50       [Reply]  [Send Email]
Justin...if you read my reply to Mark, the kit wasn't really a kit. If I was to do it again, I'd look into buying the plans - I understand you can find them and buy them online - and just buy the lumber myself. It might be a break-even because my builder gets contractor prices and I'd have to pay more, but he is also charging for his services, and I'd save that. For a first time, it was probably better to do it this way even if I'm paying a little more, just because he's been so helpful in dropping by and working with us and giving us tips and loaning tools.

Cost of the "kit" was around $11,500. Check online - you can find pretty good kits there. My builder doesn't normally do kits, so it might have been tough building it from his plans, which were really geared to his crews building it, and having a lot of the details in their heads.

The barn is 24x36 with 12 ft eaves height, plus the 12x36 open (but roofed) lean-to.

This didn't include excavation, electrical, water lines, concrete floor, insulated roll-up door (getting it from his supplier at his price though) or rental of the Bobcat with auger to drill post holes or the scissors lift (both at his rental rates). The Bobcat came out at $90 for a day, but only needed it for a few hours to do 17 holes, 18" diameter x 4 ft deep. The scissors was $50/day, and we've used it 2 days so far and will use it one more day. Both worth every penny!

I have a 10x16 rollup door, 4 ft man-door and 3 ft man-door, a 3x4 window in each gable and a 4x6 window in the middle on the lean-to side (north side). It is fully insulated (3" if I recall). I have a 1 ft overhang on three sides (but not the lean-to side) which also costs extra. I mention these because if you look at those bargain ads in the classified tabloids, they sure look good till you add in these kinds of things that don't come with those.

It was intimidating at first, but I'm a lot more comfortable with it now that we're into it. Nevertheless, I wouldn't have tried it without a bunch of friends who know their way around construction.


Mark Hendershot    Posted 05-29-2002 at 10:55:35       [Reply]  [No Email]
Sounds like you have a plan!! This is what I did befor I moved here. Worked on my place to fix it up with my labor. That raised the value of the place a bunch. Then while I could still do it again I sold out and took the money paid cash for the new place (cheaper land!!) and set it up to retire at. Long process 9 years but was worth the waiting for the finel resault. Good Job your doing! Mark H.


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