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Montgomery ward cream separator
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Melba    Posted 05-30-2002 at 10:29:17       [Reply]  [Send Email]
I am interested in how do you put together a Montgomery Ward cream separator. A friend of mine was given one and we don't know how to put it together. Help!


Jen    Posted 05-26-2009 at 22:13:00       [Reply]  [Send Email]
I have a cream separator, the only label i saw on it said Montgomery Ward Royal Blue Made in USA, does anyone know where i can find more info on it or a value? i've looked but none of the picture look the same.


Anne Dyni    Posted 02-09-2003 at 14:18:48       [Reply]  [Send Email]
We are looking for a vintage 1918 model cream separator (circa 1918)for an agricultural heritage museum
We have located one at a local antique store with the model number #14HM-4608A, but we don't know if it is the proper year.


Zena    Posted 01-11-2003 at 20:02:29       [Reply]  [Send Email]
anyone know how much one of these is worth now a days?


A.C.    Posted 05-31-2002 at 04:57:30       [Reply]  [No Email]
My international has a bell on it and you have
to crank it fast enough to get the bell to stop
clanging .


Hal/WA    Posted 05-30-2002 at 12:22:51       [Reply]  [No Email]
First, you hope it is all there! The most important part is the rotating drum, which looks like an overturned funnel. It is made of two outer parts that are held together with a nut on top and are sealed together with a large O ring. In my experience, it takes a special wrench with two pins that fit into holes on the top of the nut to open or close the drum. Inside the drum, or outside the drum on a holder that looks a bit like a safety pin, there should be many funnel shaped disks. These disks go inside the drum in a stack and are what causes the milk and cream to separate when the drum is spun at high speed. There also should be one disk that is different than the others that goes on top of the stack. Once the drum is assembled with the drum cover and O ring in place, the nut has to be tightened very tight. The assembled drum fits on the spindle of the drive unit, which may be operated by crank and/or electric power. It is a good idea to make sure that the drive unit turns very easily and that the drum spins without vibration.

Then the two spouts are assembled over the drum and the lid is assembled over the top spout tray. Depending on how your seperator is built, the whole milk container may fit over the cover, or on a bracket to the side. There should be a float that goes under the faucet from the whole milk container in the top cover. This float is very important, as it is very hard to keep the right amount of milk flowing with just the valve. The valve is easily disassembled and you will see how it works.

You are about ready to try using the assembled separator. You will need a container for the cream and a much bigger container for the skim milk. You should have a milk filter funnel with replacable paper filters to make sure no junk is in your milk before you run it through the separator. Strain the whole milk into the whole milk bowl with the milk valve off. Then turn the crank to get the drum up to speed. An electric motor sure helps at this point! It is a good idea to always start the drum with the crank before turning on the motor, however. When the drum is rotating at high speed, and if nothing sounds like it is vibrating or rubbing, slowly turn on the whole milk valve, making sure your skim milk container and cream container are in the right places under the spouts. After you have the whole milk valve adjusted correctly, the separator will work until the whole milk is gone. Of course, if you don't have a motor, you have to keep cranking. Be ready to change containers for the cream and skim milk. It is possible to add more strained whole milk to the whole milk bowl while the separator is operating. Just never leave it unattended! Milk makes a terrible mess and the smell lasts almost forever.....

When all the milk has gone through, it is extremely important to wash the separator immediately. We usually ran a couple of gallons of cold water through the system and then a couple of gallons of very hot water through. You have to put a container under both spouts and catch what comes out. Hogs like this wash water with milk and a little cream. Or it can be thrown away. As soon as possible, the separator should be disassembled totally and washed in hot, soapy water and rinsed very carefully. It is easier to get the drum open and easier to get everything clean if you do it right away. The disks go back on the safety pin for washing and should be kept in order (they may have stamped numbers). Once everything is washed, the parts should be dried carefully to avoid rust.

When I was growing up, we milked up to 5 cows and sold whole milk to neighbors. Any that was not sold whole was separated and the cream sold to the local creamery. We drank skim milk and fed it to the hogs or calves. The money I earned with my little "dairy" went a long ways toward putting me through college.

I don't know if it is legal to sell milk like we did these days. And I would worry about liability. My customers liked my milk and cream, because it was always extremely clean--I drank the same milk all the time.

Keeping the separator clean is the key to having it stay working well and not contaminating any new milk you put through it. It is a never ending fairly big job to do this. I know some people just run water through before and after separating, but I sure would not want to drink anything through that machine!!!!!



Mary Knitter    Posted 07-07-2008 at 15:38:24       [Reply]  [Send Email]
My friend was just given a Montgomery Wards cream seprator (model 05HM33A) and we are trying to put it together. Does anyone know what kind of oil goes in the gear box?
Thanks



Frances Rice    Posted 08-21-2008 at 15:50:50       [Reply]  [Send Email]
I just recieved one also. I believe you can use any type of machine oil; sewing machine oil is what mine looks like but darker(dirtier). But My issue is I have no CLUE how to put the darn thing together, I have milk coming out if drain hole in bottom side? I am also separating Goat milk and I believe there is some way to change the settings for that but haven't figured that out yet. Give me advice and I will continue to post to you.
Frances Rice


Mark C. Jenson    Posted 07-04-2007 at 14:41:27       [Reply]  [Send Email]
Just got old one from my father, Model 04HM-4608A,
serial # OBJ 03332
Thought I had it together right, your information helped confirm that. Thanks!


DeadCarp - thanks for that    Posted 05-31-2002 at 10:53:18       [Reply]  [No Email]
It's been ages since i assembled a separator, and it was fun just reading how again. Reminded me of a few things - heh heh - I used to get separating, grab a fruit jar and give it about 3 counts of milk & 7 of cream. Sipping and cranking away in the basement - could have been worse! You're right tho - later on whe we retired the DeLaval, that electric Malotte sure could move some milk! Then all that was left was the luggin. :)


Hogman    Posted 05-30-2002 at 13:25:49       [Reply]  [No Email]
Hal that brings back mixed memorys some not so good. We ran 16 head of cows, sold milk to tha creamery in city and cream and butter to the produce man in tha little local town.
Anyway, tha seperater ran every day of tha week and as tha one usually responsiable for clean up I can vouch for what a "joy" it was. As soon as tha last drop goes thru,sluice it out,break it down and get it scrubbed and even so it can smell ungood. Never could figure out how anything that tastes as good as good ole cow milk could smell so bad so quick . And like You say every little bit gets washed CLEAN or else! Been many years,store milk ai'nt as good by a country mile but sure a lot easier just draggin it out of tha dairy case stead of squzzin outta a cow tit.


Hal/WA    Posted 05-30-2002 at 22:37:18       [Reply]  [No Email]
Yeah, that is part of why I haven't milked a cow in many a moon, and why I don't ever plan to start up again. But the whole process did me some good when I was a kid--it sure made me conscientious and thorough. And my farming did a lot toward sending me to college.

I remember when we got our second separator and thinking how much of a work saver it was with the electric motor. It was hard work to crank the one we had before.

The good old days, formerly known as these trying times.


DeadCarp- trying times    Posted 05-31-2002 at 06:33:10       [Reply]  [No Email]
"The good old days, formerly known as these trying times." ay? I like that!

Still, things are always improving - our 200-yr-old German bible used to condemn babies at birth - the thing announced them as "Born into this woeful world" on such&such date. But my ancestors thrived despite introductions.

Heck, we were dirt poor but even thru those trying times we were glad to be kicking! When i'd get dumped off a horse, my Dad figured if i could still cuss and i could still grin, i was still okay. :)


Hal/WA    Posted 05-30-2002 at 22:36:57       [Reply]  [No Email]
Yeah, that is part of why I haven't milked a cow in many a moon, and why I don't ever plan to start up again. But the whole process did me some good when I was a kid--it sure made me conscientious and thorough. And my farming did a lot toward sending me to college.

I remember when we got our second separator and thinking how much of a work saver it was with the electric motor. It was hard work to crank the one we had before.

The good old days, formerly known as these trying times.


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