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Gary    Posted 02-24-2005 at 06:35:39       [Reply]  [No Email]
I get the impression from one of your previous posts that you have experience in growing grapes. I just received three seedless grape vines I ordered from Gurneys. Two Green and one red. How far apart should these plants be from each other? How wide a span and how high should the trellis be for them to grow on? Should I add some peat moss and or fertilizer when planting? How often should they be fertilized and with what kind of fertilizer? When should I prune them?

I'd appreciate any information/experience you could share with me. Thanks


Fern(Mi)    Posted 02-24-2005 at 15:30:31       [Reply]  [No Email]
Grapes in Western Michigan are planted a year after their grape arbor site has been laid out an prepared. One the rows are developed post holes are dug as deep as they can go. Five feet is the preferred depth. The soil, usually sandy locations, has limestone mixed in and poured back into the hole. The post holes furnish the grape vines easy access routes to subterranean water. The limestone mixed in prior to planting furnishes the roots with a couple/three lifetime supplies of this sweetener. Wish I could tell you more, but it has been 50yrs or more since watching my folks planting and raising grapes. I believe their arbors were four foot high with two wires. About time they quit farming they were talking three wires `T’ing the top two.
Fernan


Dale Anne    Posted 02-24-2005 at 06:58:07       [Reply]  [No Email]
Howdy Gary, We plant our 5 foot apart, The trellis we use is about 3 foot high...so we can make our own new vines...the first vine at about 1 1/5 off the ground the 2nd 3 foot off the ground and the trailers at 1 foot off the ground...we make our own compost so we dont add fertilizer at all since this most part is chemical..we prune ours all year long so we tend to get a fuller grape[but less] at most we keep 6 vines to 1 main vine...the bottoms are fer rooting and cutting off later to get more vines...the second and third are to fruit...now the wild vines we have we cut back constantly and cant get them under control!our soil here is arkansas red clay!...very heavy and thick so we add compost around the roots a few times a year you might also want to wear a pair of golf shoes[with spikes] and just walk around the plant to airate it...we take a 2 inch wide 3 foot long pvc pipe and drive it into the ground about a foot from every plant so that rain water is collected in the pipe and does the watering fer us...ya can also use buckets to collect water off the drain spouts of your house to water plants[strain the water if you have shingles cause you will see lil black things[not sure the name of this stuff that comes off the shingles]..pour this water into the pvc pipe...you will also want to keep the stored water in a cool place with a cover on it so ya dont get mosqutoes and algea...a dash of salt in the water also seems to keep algea at bay...or can use a dash of bleach[i dont use it]...as for the rows we only keep them 4 feet apart so that we can mow between...laying some ole hay around the plants also helps but dont let it touch the stalks cause wet hay will rot the main vines.....this is the way we do it and seems to work for us...you can also do a search for your area using ask.com....just type in how to grow grapes and will give you the best way for your soil,weather,so on....hope this helps Dale Anne


Gary    Posted 02-24-2005 at 08:32:38       [Reply]  [No Email]
Thank you very much!


Dale Anne    Posted 02-24-2005 at 09:15:44       [Reply]  [No Email]
No problem gary.....as you go by the book...ya will find ways that work much better for you and the grapes....iffin ya read 4 books on grapes ya would find a few things in common but many things that have worked for one author but not another...ya might have a few vines that die off...consider this growing pains....iffin ya do have some die off dig them up and look at the root system...will tell ya alot.....if they are rotted[to much water]...short roots[need to till the area or not enough water]...no roots[got fire ants or some other critter]....root bound...not enough growing room[mainly fer pots]...so on....good luck...Dale Anne


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