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Battle with the USFS on rear tires! Picture
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Willy-N    Posted 03-04-2005 at 08:26:57       [Reply]  [No Email]

I went ond bought the most agressive mud,rock, traction and ON/OFF Highway Rated tire I could find for my Tenders rear tires. Now in the contract they are stating they need to be All Season or M&S Rated tires!! These are better than the M&S or All Season tires which are not also rated for Off Road use. So far I got one Official to agree with me and waiting for the last one to give his OK. The Tread on these are 1 inch deep, self cleaning, Tread Rock & Chip duty rated what more could they ask for?? Another problem to solve wanting to work for the USFS on Fires. These are twice as good as the ones I had last year that were approved! I sure hope I don't have to spend another 1,600.00 on tires and find some one to buy these just to get a cheaper tire they like that will not work as good off road on the dirt roads we need good traction on! Mark H.

Redneck    Posted 03-05-2005 at 04:43:25       [Reply]  [No Email]
Mark, I never knew you were such a patient soul!

Willy-N    Posted 03-05-2005 at 06:37:04       [Reply]  [No Email]
Only because I realy light fighting fires. Other wise I would tell them to stick it! Mark H.

hay    Posted 03-04-2005 at 14:23:20       [Reply]  [No Email]
you must have nerves of steel to put up with them nerve wracking gubberment officials. they can come up with more insane regulations than anything i know of.

screaminghollow    Posted 03-04-2005 at 13:31:07       [Reply]  [No Email]
govt small minds! they will be the ruin of us all.

Willy-N YES!    Posted 03-04-2005 at 14:19:16       [Reply]  [No Email]
They add Admendments all the time to the contract to cause despare to meet them! But they do not add time to having it signed and met!! Mark H.

toolman    Posted 03-04-2005 at 15:26:37       [Reply]  [No Email]
they have to justiftly their job, more paper work , the more important they look.always been like that.

Willy-N There OK!!    Posted 03-04-2005 at 12:38:06       [Reply]  [No Email]
WOW I got thru to them and the Head Man Aproved them and sent a letter to all the other USFS People to make the change! Can't belive it all done in 2 EMails and one picture of the tire. Now they started another problem Wheel Chocks last year that was the big thing and you could not buy the ones they wanted so I had a set made for $300.00 to meet the requirments!! They had to just go above the rim of the tire to pass. Well now they just made a change since you can't buy them over 8 inches for the regular tender tires they say the can't be over 8 inches tall now so I have to cut mine down to below the rim bottom?? I make a chock that meets there requirments last year and the now say there to good? Mark H.

toolman    Posted 03-04-2005 at 13:30:08       [Reply]  [No Email]
mark ole buddy are you sure we aren,t related, you get yourself into more trouble than even i do lol.

Willy-N Chocks Aproved!    Posted 03-04-2005 at 14:16:02       [Reply]  [No Email]
Well they aproved my Wheel Chocks!! Next year the other guys will have to have them like me to meet NFPA 1906 Standards. That is what they wanted last year so mine were made to meet thos specs amd they said mine exceed the specs so they are OK. Funny how one word like "Maxium of 8 inches tall" now means "Not Less than 8 inches tall". Read the fine print on those contracts! Mark H.

hay    Posted 03-04-2005 at 12:00:16       [Reply]  [No Email]
oh, the technicalities. maybe that's why the national debt is out of control. the gov't is spending it all on silly specs. as long as the job gets done, what flipping matter does it make?

Les    Posted 03-04-2005 at 08:45:29       [Reply]  [No Email]
For the first 40+ years of my life, my family had an adversarial relationship with the forest service. We are pretty much surrounded by the White Mtn N.F. here. There were some very serious issues that they were not very forthcoming (read:truthful) about and some of their policies were just plain foolish. My father went to his grave with a justifiable mistrust of that organization.
But in the last 10 years or so, there seems to be a welcome shift in their attitude. They are very willing to be cooperative now rather than being a stumbling block. The change is refreshing.
Now if the NH Fish and Game Dept. would undergo a similar transformation, we'd be making some real progress.

Willy-N    Posted 03-04-2005 at 08:52:25       [Reply]  [No Email]
I am hoping they will OK them. They print something and it is like a brick wall. I know the reason they said M&S Tires was to get away from the Highway Tread design and push for a agressive tread for traction off road. Saying that they or someone did not relise they have ON/OFF Highway designed tires and M&S does not realy mean a Off Road rated tire. On/Off Road Tires are much stronger and just a different rating put on them. Mark H.

mark    Posted 03-04-2005 at 09:19:10       [Reply]  [No Email]
Look what happened with Oreo cookies and
the military. Took an act of congress to allow
them to be used because there was
something they diidn't match in the 6 page
spec. sheets for cookies.

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