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One less dirt road
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bman    Posted 07-21-2002 at 17:57:34       [Reply]  [Send Email]
well.... tomorrow the county is going to pave the road that runs along my farm.i guess i am gettin old, 38 tomorrow. i don't like change. it will help with erosion. it will also add 25 mph to the people that drive the road.i've got a 15 year old that drives his 3-wheeler to the farm everyday,kinda worry about him.our county became a class one county about five years ago,have to have a certain % of the roads paved each year.oh well all in the name of progress

scooterhead    Posted 07-22-2002 at 06:00:11       [Reply]  [No Email]
They paved ours a few yrs. ago . They used to keep it graded fairly well , now we have pot holes . It was spos to got a 2nd coat the next yr. but they say with all the spring floods they dont have the time or money .

kraig WY Try 65 mph on a dirt road    Posted 07-21-2002 at 22:57:46       [Reply]  [Send Email]
Shoot we got state roads around here that arn't paved. None of the county roads (except in town) are paved. I live on a private road which is dirt. Under Wyoming Law, any unposted road has a 65 mph speed limit. Since I have to let people cross my property to get to theirs I had to handle speeders on my own. County wont touch the road and the state says its 65 mph. Since I maintain the road I put speed bumps on the road in front of my house to protect my grand children and live stock. Problem is the county attorney lives at the end of the road and his kid is the worst speeding offender. So I got cited for putting debry on a roadway "to wit: gravel speed bumps on a gravel road". (law doesn't specify private or public road). So I got me a trail date for a jury trail. Since its a confict of interest with the county attorney they got to get a prosicuter from another county, who don't want to touch the case. So my court date was set 130 days past my arraingement or in violation of the 120 day rule (speedy trial) so the whole thing is gonna get trown out. Ain't dirt roads fun?

David Ransom    Posted 07-21-2002 at 23:15:14       [Reply]  [Send Email]
Here in Pa., a county road is a state road. State roads that aren't highways have four digit numbers and change numbers at county lines, and can have the same numbers as secondary state roads in other counties, but they are maintained (or not) by the state. They are often dirt roads. Now the highways are always paved. The only place you'll find a 60 or 65 mph speed limit is on the interstate.

If it's a private road, can't you charge him with trespassing?

kraig WY    Posted 07-21-2002 at 23:25:05       [Reply]  [No Email]
Can't charge them with tresspassing, there's an easement across the property for utilities and acess to other's property so I can't keep them from using the road but I'm gonna slow'em down one way or another. One of them chased my horses across the cattle guard, took me all day to round them up.

john d    Posted 07-22-2002 at 12:36:41       [Reply]  [No Email]
If gravel speed-bumps aren't allowed, what about severe DIPS in the gravel road? Another option might be an additional cattle guard at a strategic spot with a couple of pipes a little too high....

Kraig WY I doubt I have to remove the speed bumps    Posted 07-22-2002 at 14:13:30       [Reply]  [No Email]
But yes I have lined up some pretty nasty cattle guards. Wash boards and other ideals. Not interested in seeing my grandkids splattered on some one grill or horse put through a fence.

David Ransom    Posted 07-21-2002 at 21:10:08       [Reply]  [Send Email]
Here we can say that for a different reason, as Harford Township abandoned South Harmony Road T448 (Someone told me that someone else had put a gate across it and the township did nothing.) and PennDOT hasn't rebuilt the bridge in Susquehanna County 2021 that's been down for about 10 years. I guess SR2021 doesn't count though, because it's paved. As for speed limits, the speed limit on Finn Road (Benton T507) (a dirt road) is 35mph, and the speed limit is 25mph on parts of Susquehanna County 2017, a paved road that has a yellow line up the middle but is narrow enough it shouldn't.

Rob Meyer    Posted 07-22-2002 at 10:46:12       [Reply]  [Send Email]
Easements can be wonderfull things. If you do not have to use the road or if you can access your property in another way - you should put gates at both ends. For the livestock ofcourse.

Don't lock them - therefore you are not keeping anybody from accessing their land, But they will have to stop and get out - open and close the gates each time they pass thorugh. When people complain - state that the kids are running your livestock and the gates are needed - then you have a way to negotiate with your neighbors to keep their speed down.

kraig WY    Posted 07-22-2002 at 18:55:53       [Reply]  [No Email]
Wyoming law states that if you fence across a road that you have to put in a cattle guard. It's a fence out state so there are a lot of cattle guards. Nobody wants to waste the bar ditch hay/grass.

DAve 50 8n    Posted 07-22-2002 at 15:31:24       [Reply]  [Send Email]
...yeah, but I bet no one will close the gates

and you'd probably need to put up 5,000 signs and send out mass mailings that warn of a new gate and put up flashing lights and have people marching with signs and yelling to warn the drivers of the changes...and have them sign forms notifying them of changes.

and you'd be replacing gates like hotcakes soon.

...overall, I like the idea, actually.

Glen    Posted 07-23-2002 at 07:07:17       [Reply]  [Send Email]
You might try putting down some REAL corse gravel.
More like golf balls. Then you can make some extra cash pulling the speeders out of the ditch.

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