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EIEIO    Posted 08-20-2002 at 05:39:34       [Reply]  [No Email]
Went out to feed my critters and let my Great Pyr out, heard barking, lots of barking, squaking, behind one of the barns, dog took off. He was chasing the dogs that live way behind us. I went about my chores, next thing I know here comes my dog with part of my white duck in his mouth. He laid it down. I went behind the barn and walked to the back sure enough the rest of my duck was laying there. This is the fourth duck we have lost, the only one though that I found the body. When we first moved here the neighboors, Rotweiller was eating the paws off the rabbits, I heard the noise went to the barn and the dog went to come after me, I picked up the nearest thing I could and would have killed the so-and-so but he ran. We told the neighbors they said we could kill the dog. I suggested they chain him up or build a pen, the wife informed me they have over 100 acres (thank you) and they see no reason to do that. Anyway last month they called us, someone shot their dog three times and they thought it was us. If I am going to shoot a dog I will kill it not just injure it. The three dogs run in a pack. The neighbors across the road have lost, cats, chickens and ducks big time. Problem is the man is home during the day so going over there to take care of the problem is difficult. I feel if you have animals take care of them, I keep Halfpint penned up with the sheep in their part of the barn and pasture. We have tried talking with them and it does not good. Sorry to vent but I just get so upset when I see any critter killed needlessly. Thanks for listening.

Have a great day, I am sure mine will be better!

rachel    Posted 08-20-2002 at 19:22:06       [Reply]  [Send Email]
EI, got a lady friend with the same problem but was mauling her dogs and killed several. They were pitbulls. She solved it. Shot them as they came in her yard. Said there were 14 to start with. When her neighbor had to go out of town, she asked my friend to check on pregnant pit. They were born while she was gone and my friend got rid of all but 2 out of a litter of 12. She's softhearted so she left the two. I agree with her. Any dogs come here and kill my poultry, they are dead dogs. I own a Great Dane and she stays on the place. Around here any dog that roams doesn't come back as one of mine didn't. She kept slipping her chain. So, I can't blame anyone but myself. Hope you feel better. I know allof your birds are like family to ya. Rachel

Gary    Posted 08-20-2002 at 10:20:40       [Reply]  [No Email]
one dog stay home,two dogs tend to roam

Hogman    Posted 08-20-2002 at 10:18:50       [Reply]  [No Email]
EI & Dennis,real sorry to hear this. Sorta seems like it's a thing that just keeps comin up with only one workable answer.


Ya hate ta do it but if tha neighbors won't take care of em it's up to You.

B T D T several times.

rachel    Posted 08-20-2002 at 19:12:26       [Reply]  [Send Email]
Sir Hogman, you are way too intellectual for me. Spent a good part of my day while doing chores trying to figure out what BTDT means. Please put me out of my misery and TELL me. I do so thank you in advance. Mark sez maybe bury the d**m things. Is he right? Later, rachel

Hogman *** B een T here D one T hat    Posted 08-20-2002 at 23:19:37       [Reply]  [No Email]
Just noticed what it is if Ya read twixt tha lines so's ta speak, "in here one Hat" "they did'nt go that'a ways after all".
Ok, so it's kinda dumb but look at tha time of day (mornin that is).
This mornin drove 225 miles comin home from a meeting last night (stayed in motel)and this evening drove to another meeting 35 miles away. Got home,went ta bed,too wound up ta sleep and in 3 hours it's time for tha first pill of tha day. I may try sleepin a while but after tha 4 o'clock pill I might as well stay up. About 6 AM take another 7 pills,eat breakfast and start tha day.
Have a Committee meeting lunch at noon over in another County and leave there for therapy session and home too late for nap befor supper.
Work hard,play hard'n rest in Your grave.

In between all that I realy do run a small cow/calf operation. Which by tha way is quit well underwritten by my pension check. Does beat holdin down a day job ta keep it goin like most Farmers around here do .

rachel    Posted 08-21-2002 at 05:27:40       [Reply]  [Send Email]
Well, Hogman, sounds like a very busy life. Don't forget it's always better ta be busy. Keeps the heart pumping and the brain sparking. Me, I run the goats and the poultry and the garden. Too young for retirement and too old for clerking. We have a small painting business and get some work around here in SE MO. but mostly in St. Louis. What meetings you go to? Farm coop? Politicking? You'd make a great politico. Got more'n your share of the gift of gab (That's a flattery) Thanks for the info, eased my tired brain! Later, rachel

Tom A    Posted 08-20-2002 at 10:04:13       [Reply]  [Send Email]

I think F14 has the right approach. You did your part trying to deal with the neighbors, they haven't done theirs. I guess you can try animal control but in my experience, animal control is zero help.

These dogs will come back...they're hunting in a pack, and they won't stop once they've tasted blood. You may even have trouble with your own dogs joining in the pack if they're not stopped soon. Obviously they're bothering other livestock, if they've been shot and it wasn't you.

I think you owe it to your animals to protect them.


kraig WY Sorry, gonna throw the monkey on your back    Posted 08-20-2002 at 09:48:22       [Reply]  [Send Email]
Arkansas is one of those states that allow you to protect your animals. We, who own stock, even if its only a hobby farm owe protection to our animals. I love dogs more then most but I still have to protect my animals. Going to the owners wont hurt but it wont stop the dogs once they start running in packs. You're gonna loose all your critters if you don't do something. Believe be (comming from a sheep state) those suckers are gonna start on your sheep. In Anchorage, Rotwillers were second only to pitbulls for turning on people.

bob ny    Posted 08-20-2002 at 09:26:14       [Reply]  [No Email]
i was told by astate trooper that if a dog attacks any of my animals i should shoot then stuff feathers or fur in his mouth and call them
this was told under the table of course

big fred    Posted 08-20-2002 at 09:25:37       [Reply]  [No Email]
We had a similar problem, my wife kept finding dog poop in our driveway. Wasn't our dog, as he is in a fenced yard, it was a neighbor's dog. If he had kept it in the street, no problem, but he came about 20 yards down our driveway and left a big pile in the middle of the driveway. My wife spoke to the neighbor, got promises, nothing happened. In addition, they had another dog that was aggressive and which ended up biting my wife (didn't break the skin). I came home to find my wife on the phone one day. "On hold?" I asked. "No, on the warpath", she answered. She called animal control, the health dept, building department and the sherriff. Animal control came out and gave a warning, Health dept came out and gave a warning about the aggressive dog and about their unapproved septic system, Building dept came out and told them they had not gotten permits for their buildings, the buildings were not approved for the use they were being put to, there was no house number visible from the road, and a couple other things. They were given 30 days to move out, which got extended to 120 days. A couple weeks later their aggressive dog attacked the neighbor's 15 yr old son (he wasn't provoking it, he ain't that type, he was just riding past on his bike) so the neighbor lady called the sherriff, who took the dog, which was euthanized when it wasn't claimed. The neighbors moved out a couple weeks ago. The morale of the story? Don't mess with a redhead...

RayP(MI)    Posted 08-20-2002 at 07:50:00       [Reply]  [No Email]
If you find a rotweiler trap that works let me know! We got three llamas to protect our sheep. Let the neighbor know what llamas do to problem dogs, and told him that some of our rabbits were worth more than his stupid dog. Told him that if his dog was even threatening our animals, I had the right to shoot, and I would. Then he'd be faced with my lawsuit. He bought a decent chain with a proper clip on it. Dog hasn't been here since!

Dennis    Posted 08-20-2002 at 08:25:12       [Reply]  [No Email]
Well Ray,
At least your neighbor did something to protect you and his dog. I guess you are still on speaking terms?
This(our) neighbor hasn't done a thing and he apparently doesn't feel he has to. He gave me some special shot bullets to shoot his dog(s) that will hurt them but not kill them. So I guess he expects me to help him be irresponsible. Guess what? It aint gonna happen. The sold slug 20 gauge
bullets will be used.
We will update. News and photos at eleven LOL

F14 Once again, I give you...    Posted 08-20-2002 at 05:52:52       [Reply]  [No Email]
The Three S's of Stray Animal Control:

1. Shoot
2. Shovel
3. Shut up.

Just make sure it's on YOUR land when ya shoot it.

Clem    Posted 08-20-2002 at 07:51:54       [Reply]  [Send Email]
F14, that's exactly the correct answer. Around here that's the way we handle that kind of problem.

LH    Posted 08-20-2002 at 05:50:55       [Reply]  [No Email]
Call your animal control officer since the neighbors don't want to take action on their own. If you have dog tax in your area, it is supposed to reimburse you for any livestock injured or killed by the dogs as well.

Rich    Posted 08-20-2002 at 05:49:03       [Reply]  [No Email]
That's a horrible scene to wake up to... I agree that your neighbors are being totally disrespectful and are not doing their dog any favors either. If you guys don't kill that nuisance dog... somebody else better before it rips the head off somebody's kid.

I have some dogs that I let run while I am out working, but I know where they are and they don't kill the neighbor's livestock or act agressively toward the neighbors...

I say we shoot the neighbors instead of their dog??? maybe that's a little harsh.

Good luck... sorry about your ordeal!

anon    Posted 08-20-2002 at 05:47:57       [Reply]  [No Email]
Kill the dog, stuff it in a feed sack and take it and dump it or bury the hateful thing or better yet trap it and all the animal control officer to come and get it, since it attacked you it is dangerous and needs to be killed end of story. enough is enough

UHHHH, EVER TRY TO TRAP A ROTTWEILER??    Posted 08-20-2002 at 05:58:47       [Reply]  [No Email]

anon    Posted 08-20-2002 at 13:53:44       [Reply]  [No Email]
Yep, leg traps, snare trap no problem

Then shoot em

rhouston    Posted 08-20-2002 at 09:32:59       [Reply]  [No Email]
had the same kind of problem with a cat of all things. I have 170 acres they have maybe 20. Cost me 300 dollars at vet last lime ol nasty was around. asked some neighbors about it they said it had killed some of theirs too. also said cat was an outside only cat. ( i don't like to shoot anyones pets) but I'm not about to keep cats inside all the time. next time i saw it i shot near it, did this on two occasions. third time i shot AT it. don't see it anymore. best solution is what f14 said, thats what your gramps would have done. just be quiet about it.

agent 99    Posted 08-20-2002 at 10:08:54       [Reply]  [No Email]
we have ways of dealing with the owners

hogman*** AKA 007    Posted 08-20-2002 at 10:31:30       [Reply]  [No Email]
99 take care spreading word of such covert opperations.
You must at all times advise descreation ;Rule # 1928374.098765 of tha bad pet owners elmination manual Dtd 2/31/1776

Clean kills reccamanded to avoid undue suffering.

agent 99    Posted 08-20-2002 at 10:45:13       [Reply]  [No Email]
rule no.458792.000274,s new manula 4/12/98,allows continued pressure to be placed on said owners,till they realize that ,animals no longer have to pay the price for their stupidy,all to often all they just got out an get more dogs problem starts all over again . so we have ways of dealing (blackjack, 5 card draw, an others)ops still in vegas ,gotta get outa here , assignment changed

007 **** 99    Posted 08-20-2002 at 11:26:57       [Reply]  [No Email]
Sorry bout that, I thought We were referin ta tha owners of prior refered to pets.

What tha heck Rule# 321890.567 as amended by Sec67 sub sec 765 dtd 12/34/03 throws tha whole thing out'n allows for squshin owners'n pets together under tha mighty tracks of tha ESSEX tri-directional triple inverted double tribulated (DELETED) solver of all problems!

agent 99    Posted 08-20-2002 at 12:06:29       [Reply]  [No Email]
007, now your into the big guns , an thats the proper way to go but i though we,d bring them alon slowly , but since you have chosen to divulge this information then i say go for it lets use the big guns on them, an since the essex is involved i,ll best leave the rest to you experts , you will know hopw best approach the problem , an since it has become a national empedic, i would urge you to proceed as quickly as possible so we can control the bad ones an help the good people like eieio an dennis all across this great nation, from the raveges of them wild people an their varmit critters masgurading as dogs leave it to you oo7 ,job well done as usuall

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