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Larry    Posted 09-10-2002 at 10:41:48       [Reply]  [Send Email]
I need a float switch to turn on the water pump for my cattle tank. a sump pump switch won't work because it turns on when the water level rises...I need it in the tank to turn on when the water level falls.............any ideas????


Jim Tate    Posted 09-11-2002 at 04:19:37       [Reply]  [Send Email]
if you have a pump then I assume you have power of some sort.

a simple and inexpensive switch is a pressure switch like a clothes washer uses. these might be found in a used or discarded washer or can be bought fairly cheaply from an appliance place.

freezing will have to be dealt with through other means as the switch will not work if the water freezes.

advantage is that the switch and its electricty can be remote from the water with a pressure sensing tube sensing the water level in the tank.

Of course you will have to have a electric valve to turn the water on in response to signal from the switch. this again could be a washing machine solenoid and diaphram valve.

hard to recommend if we don't know the basics of your system.

If you don't have a pressure system then I would pump water to storage and feed it by gravity with a simple water tank float valve. Pump the water when it suits you and have storage enough in the resevoir to handle the needs. I do this with a solar pump. Pump when the sun shines and have 700 gallons of storage for the calves to drink from when the sun is not shining. All connected to a frost free water fountain.


Larry    Posted 09-10-2002 at 19:32:31       [Reply]  [Send Email]
thanks for the ideas, but a couple of things are I did indeed try the upsidedown sump pump switch but it was not heavy enough to carry the current and burned out in 2 weeks.......also I'm not using a pressure system because it is a pasture situation and i removed the check valve so the submersable pump will drain back so not to freeze
I've heard of a mercury switch designed for this purpose....does anyone know of that?


Rhudson    Posted 09-10-2002 at 12:40:45       [Reply]  [Send Email]
Grainger has float switches with normally open and normally closed switch legs.


Larry    Posted 09-10-2002 at 19:50:58       [Reply]  [No Email]
is grainger a sump pump switch? I'm not familiar with it. Larry


Larry    Posted 09-10-2002 at 19:50:38       [Reply]  [No Email]
is grainger a sump pump switch? I'm not familiar with it. Larry


rhudson    Posted 09-11-2002 at 06:33:53       [Reply]  [Send Email]
Hi Larry,

sorry, i should have been more specific. Grainger is a industrial suppler. Try grainger.com and do a search under float switches. they offer 85 items. you might look at the teel NC bulb type switch. if you are dealing with cows, remember that if it can be broken, it will be broken sooner or later.


Larry    Posted 09-11-2002 at 10:48:34       [Reply]  [No Email]
thanks...will check them out....Larry


bill b va    Posted 09-10-2002 at 12:27:05       [Reply]  [No Email]

you can reverse a switches action very easily by using a relay . it would be hard for me to explain here if you are not very knowledgable of electricity . ask a electrician or have someone at a electrical supply house show you .in my opinion it would be very dangerious to try and rig a switch to a float if it is not intended for use in water or wet locations .


JoeK    Posted 09-10-2002 at 11:56:07       [Reply]  [No Email]
Hard ta "splain" but if you had a sump pump switch with a toilet type float and arm sticking out the "back" of the switch paddle,it would reverse the action,ie: when the extra float dropped it would lever the switch up and ON,and as it dropped lever it up and off.


JoeK...Correction    Posted 09-10-2002 at 11:58:26       [Reply]  [No Email]
and as it RAISED lever it up and OFF.


Ron/PA    Posted 09-10-2002 at 11:53:36       [Reply]  [Send Email]
Larry, contact your local sewerage pump dealer, tell him what you want to do, and he should be able to show you how to reverse a float switch.
Ron


Scott Hansen    Posted 09-10-2002 at 11:40:28       [Reply]  [Send Email]
Install the sump pump switch upside down!!! No, really, could you use a float valve from a swamp cooler? Cheap and easy to rig. Or how about one of those toilet floats that are mounted around the tube. Seems you could make a holder for either from scraps and attatch your hose.


Scott Hansen    Posted 09-10-2002 at 11:37:35       [Reply]  [Send Email]
Install the sump pump switch upside down!!! No, really, could you use a float valve from a swamp cooler? Cheap and easy to rig. Or how about one of those toilet floats that are mounted around the tube. Seems you could make a holder for either from scraps and attatch your hose.


Bob /Ont.    Posted 09-10-2002 at 11:07:20       [Reply]  [Send Email]
Larry, could you get an old toilet tank and mount it into the cattle tank. Then hook a garden hose from your pressure system up to the BALL COCK. I think you may need a double female hose from a washing machine to make it fit.
Later Bob


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