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Loose livestock
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SAM (MO)    Posted 09-17-2002 at 12:39:43       [Reply]  [No Email]
Just need to blow off a little steam today. Here it was at 4 am off to work again, when making a bend in the road there stands the neighbors horse and two calves. Time after time I made comments to them, "don't you think it might not be a good idea to let them run loose they could get hit by a automobile. They just shrugg it off and say we do all the time. In trying to be a good neighbor I don't want to cause a fight but, I don't want to be without the truck either. There are state lawes about loose livestock, were the owner is responsible for any damage. Just worried some one might get hurt. Thanks for letting blow off steam.


Larry    Posted 09-18-2002 at 06:14:56       [Reply]  [Send Email]

Good fences make good neighbors. Here in Wisconsin if you don't keep up your fences your neighbors have the right to put up a new one for you,and the township will take it out of your taxes. In most cases it's a lot cheaper to take care of your own fences.


Burrhead    Posted 09-17-2002 at 17:04:02       [Reply]  [No Email]
Naw yer going at it bassackards.

You said you have spoken to the neighbor about the cattle before.

My 1st thought is this. You already warned yosef, so don't worry about it, just slow down.

If yer driving so fast in a known livestock and family farm area as to be in danger yourself from yo own drivin habits then there is a good chance you could be driving so fast as to be a danger to residents and animules in your area.

You just need to set yo clock 10 minits earlier or just make it a quicky on the early mornin organized athletics.

Or maybe move into St Louis. I never seen a cow loose on I-70 or on Hwy 40.

K.C. is a different story. I have seen them folks have a yuppie version of runnin-uh-duh bulls down at the railyard.

That neighbor might very well be a good man he just don't like listening to a bunch of whiney griping about his cow. Specially when it's coming from a feller that don't know enuff to slow down or simply get up a little earlier to keep a schedule................danged yuppes.


Sam (MO)    Posted 09-18-2002 at 04:31:46       [Reply]  [No Email]
Burrhead

I do drive slow at 4Aam in the morning. I travel 4 miles on a gravel road just to reach the blacktop. It's a sharp bend in the road and I would hate to see some one get hurt because of this guys cattle or horse being in the road. The state built a new college not far away and the kids really fly down our gravel roads. In a hut shell I'd hate to see anything bad happen to anyone.


Clare    Posted 09-17-2002 at 15:55:56       [Reply]  [No Email]
Down here owners of wandering stock are liable for any damage they cause...but when stock are crossing roads where signs have been put up as a warning, the stock have right of way.

It can be real pain in the butt when people don't care about the safety of their stock and other people...especially when they've been repeatedly told it is a problem. Makes you wonder why they have animals in the first place when they aren't prepared to take some responsibility for them.


kraig WY    Posted 09-17-2002 at 13:19:40       [Reply]  [No Email]
MO must be differant from Wyoming. Livestock have the right away here. Open range and fence out state. Property owners gotta fence out live stock as opposed to livestock owners haveing to fence them in.

I guess you guys have more grass then us. Everybody turns their livestock into the bar ditches here.


Kathy    Posted 09-17-2002 at 13:34:23       [Reply]  [Send Email]
In WY what happens on the freeways? Do they fence along the highways? I wondered since we were going on vacation out that way & I don't want to hit a steer! :) Thanks,


Hogman***KRAIG    Posted 09-17-2002 at 14:50:42       [Reply]  [No Email]
Kraig it's not that We have so much more grass here in Paradise,it's just that tha big spreads have turned into smaller spreads,more people,I guess a lot more People that like havin EVERY thing regulated,so tis that several years ago tha State law was changed from "fence tha other fellers out ta fence Your own stuff in" and if I hit Your cow out in tha road You pay. No question!
Fortunatly by and large common sense prevails here in tha hills at least. We all make allowances for old,rusty,fallin down type fences,BUT if Your stock is out very often ,Folks may take action.

Some years ago a Feller with realy bad fencin just sorta let His cows wander tha countryside. Several warnins had no effect so one evenin a group'a "cowboys" held a round up, loaded His cattle up, hauled em off down inta Arkansas'n turned em out onta a new bunch of Folks.
He got a few of em back------but with no brands? Whos cow is it?


kraig WY Yes ma'am    Posted 09-17-2002 at 14:17:57       [Reply]  [No Email]
Freeways are fenced, and cattle guards on the ramps. Les is right though, you arn't gonna see much from the freeways. You get on the secondary roads and you'll see Wyoming.

Like the old saying goes, "It ain't that all the cowboys are gone, its just you can't see them from the road".

However, if you do use the secondary roads in the spring and fall, remember that's when people move live stock. I was south of Jackson Hole one fall and had to wait about an hour for someguy to get his herd of sheep across the road.

They might get you out of the car to help also.


Les...fortunate    Posted 09-17-2002 at 13:51:55       [Reply]  [No Email]
Don't worry, Kathy. There ain't anything to obstruct your visibility (such as trees, for instance) in the whole state so you won't have any trouble seeing what's up ahead. At least until you get up to the Grand Tetons anyway.
";^)


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