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What is the toughest breed of cattle ???
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Bob    Posted 09-29-2002 at 17:54:00       [Reply]  [Send Email]
I have some calves that I bought from a sale and have lost some and want to know what kind of cows are the strongest every one has an opinion I'm sure Thanks for the help


Promise Land Ranch    Posted 09-30-2002 at 19:25:36       [Reply]  [Send Email]
I am partial to Scottish Highlands because here in Okanogan we have harsh winters and poor grazing. Highlands thive in these condition because they "eat everything other cattle would stave on and get fat." According to the NWHCA. This is true because I have three highlands and they will go around and eat the good weeds and grass out of the pasture even though they have nice alfalfa hay in the manger. They also gain weight easily but they don't get as large a other breeds(Angus, Hereford, Longhorns)the top weight for a cow is about 1100 lbs and 1500 lbs for a bull.
I have posted a picture of my two new girls in the photo gallery. Another advantage is they are CUTE and it is better to have a herd of good looking girls than it is to have your standard Black Angus cows in your pasture.

Shelby


ger    Posted 09-30-2002 at 19:44:36       [Reply]  [No Email]
nice looking cows shelby , good luck with them


Dennis    Posted 09-30-2002 at 08:46:00       [Reply]  [No Email]
Bob,
What part of PA ya from?
I was born in Bethlehem and had some raisin on a farm in Hellertown.


Bob    Posted 09-30-2002 at 18:04:04       [Reply]  [Send Email]
I'm in NE Pa above scranton


hay    Posted 09-30-2002 at 04:47:41       [Reply]  [No Email]
i would have to agree with burrhead about the TEXAS LONGHORNS. it's a heckuva tough animal having to live out on the range and scrounge whatever it can for food. not very good meat animal as it is "rangy" and therefore does not command a very high price at the sale.another good one (for south texas) is brahman as it can withstand the texas heat and insects.


scooterhead    Posted 09-30-2002 at 03:08:11       [Reply]  [No Email]
About 15 yrs. ago I had about 6-7 Belted Gallaway cattle in the herd . They always wintered good , better than most and raised good calves . alot of times you would see`em out eatin rose bushes when the rest of the cows were at the hay feeder .The down fall was some of the buyers were afraid of`em but we cross bred most of the stripes off of`em .


Chris in Ne.    Posted 09-29-2002 at 20:56:20       [Reply]  [Send Email]
Sorry to hear about your loss. As what Burrhead said salebarns are a breeding ground for about every kind of virus Known to the cattle industry. If you want bucket calves get them from a fairly reputable person that maybe just selling the cow cause she mean or what ever. Also see if the calf has had its colustrium preferbly within the first 12 hours the sooner the better. It gives the calf basic defense against most ills. It sounds as if your calves came from dirty calving grounds. (cows in lots of manure etc.) The naval discharges sound like naval infection especially if the knee joints are hot and swollen we usually use penicillion on those and the calves with scours we have been giving this stuff that looked and smelled like bepto-bismo and usually pencillion or la 200 that usually works for us. Also myself I prefure Gelbvey cows and limosine bull. Good luck Chris


Kraig WY    Posted 09-29-2002 at 20:10:59       [Reply]  [No Email]
Angus or Angus cross. They are not only hardy, but beefy. And for some unknow reason buyers like black calves. Around here they average $50 plus more then simular cattle of the same weight but of differant colors. Don't ask me why. There all the same color when you peel the hide off 'um.


Grove r    Posted 09-29-2002 at 22:00:42       [Reply]  [No Email]
I raise Black Angus cattle, I feel they are hardy, easy calvers, no horns, and do well here in the winter. Others around have mostly hereford, charolais cross or hereford semintal cross....my feelings are not good toward these types of animals, calves are way too big, creating bigger vet bills at calving, and in my observations, the bigger the calf, the dumber they are, to the point of not standing, and/or not sucking. my "little" angus calves "hit the ground running", so to speak.....and I do not baby sit my cows at calving, as the most of the other breeds here require. JMHO, have a gooder,R.E.L.


Donna from Missouri    Posted 09-29-2002 at 18:07:35       [Reply]  [Send Email]
Brahma cattle can take the heat best. I think the old Hereford and Angus breeds are very hardy, but I've had lots of Jerseys and Holsteins and never had a lot of trouble either. Maybe the calves you bought hadn't been cared for properly. Here in Missouri, the temperatures can go as high as 115 (rarely) or as low as 20 below, and I have raised bottle calves from the age of 3 days old in both the coldest and the hottest weather. How old were the calves? It's hard to get healthy baby calves at a sale. And even if they are healthy before the sale, they can pick up lots of "bugs" while they're there.


Bob    Posted 09-29-2002 at 19:15:26       [Reply]  [Send Email]
I'm in Pa our climates are much like yours. All of the calves I bought had umbilical cords still so young. lost 7 to the scours hit real fast. mostly holstein heifers. I have a holstein,3 jersey crosses,black angus and an airshire all seem fine out on pasture only 1 is still on the bottle. I herd that long horns are real rugged animals and rarely ever get sick.


Burrhead    Posted 09-29-2002 at 19:49:09       [Reply]  [No Email]
Bob if they still have their cords they need bottles. They won't slip the cord til about 3 to 5 weeks old generally. They need some antibiotics.

The scours could have been "shipping fever". They get all stressed out and come down with scours and/or p-monia very easy. Plus that the auctions are a breeding ground for every disease known to exist.

They needed their mama's milk for the 1st week or so of life, it had all the natural immunity medicine in the colostrum.

Longhorns are very tough. They don't get sick much and aint as touchy as most breeds. The down side to it is that they don't produce enough meat for what feed cost to be efficient.

If ye got plenty of pasture and don't have to buy feed you can't beat longhorn.

A Brangus-- a angus-brahma cross is hardy in any climate too and grow out really well.

I wish we had holstein and jerseys around here. The gubermint shut down all the dairy farms here years ago.


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