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Finishing off a steer
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VKG    Posted 10-17-2002 at 15:00:42       [Reply]  [Send Email]
When feeding a steer cracked corn, should there be some of the undigested corn that comes through in his stool? Would it be better if I soaked the corn? How about sweet feed, it is cheaper then the corn and has a higher protein content.


Jerry S    Posted 10-18-2002 at 08:12:40       [Reply]  [No Email]
The finer ground the corn is, the more of it the steer can digest. Doesn't have to be cornmeal, but lots of times cracked corn isn't very cracked. I like mine to be ground a little and put some beef concentrate in it to bring up the protein a little. You need more than what corn gives you for protein to get a better marbled carcass.


screaminghollow    Posted 10-17-2002 at 22:21:59       [Reply]  [Send Email]
Yes alot of undigested stuff goes through their systems and comes out as identifiable. (I knew a farmer who would feed alot of whole corn to his cattle during the Maryland goose hunting season. The whole corn would come out in the cow pies in the pasture. The geese would come down in his pasture, where of course he had his blind, He was eating goose almost every day in the winter. He claimed it was legal baiting.)
I read an interesting note in a farm paper recently, that if you feed lots of grain from the 3rd to six month, the calves develop lots of fat and marbling on less grain (because they are younger and don't eat as much) and they don't lose it being out on pasture. Theoretically,you don't have to finsh them in the conventional sense when they are large and eat so much more grain. I'm giving that a try right now with some calves I'm raising. The calves are 5 months old and they get about a gallon of grain a day, each. I'm actually feeding 12% horse pellets that are high in fat. (I've checked the ingredients to make sure there's no animal by products.) I found a place that sells this stuff for $4.00 a fifty pound bag, sure cheaper than any where else around here.


fredo    Posted 10-17-2002 at 19:29:02       [Reply]  [Send Email]
you folks missing important crop there. you can feed a hog from the exhaust from the steer and a chicken from the exhaust from of the hog. in my book thats atripple crop. labor& time & cost savings.
fredo


screaminghollow    Posted 10-17-2002 at 23:28:15       [Reply]  [Send Email]
You forget how they mix 10%chicken manure in the beef cattle feed. What goes around.. err through, comes around.


fredo    Posted 10-17-2002 at 19:27:41       [Reply]  [Send Email]
you folks missing important crop there. you can feed a hog from the exhaust from the steer and a chicken from the exhaust from of the hog. in my book thats atripple crop. labor& time & cost savings.
fredo


Burrhead    Posted 10-17-2002 at 16:06:45       [Reply]  [No Email]
Here's my 2 cents FWIW

The protein runs neck and neck at around 10% for cracked corn or sweet feed both. Sweet feed is a little more expensive around here. Corn is $4.25 per 50lbs and 10% sweet feed is $4.50 to $5.25 per 50.

Yer still gonna get whole corn out the tail pipe no matter how you feed it to him and the steer won't eat much soaked corn unless you let it ferment or starve him into it.

If ye want lower priced high protein feed get some black oil sunflower seed at Walmarts or soybeans and crush them.

Then mix a ratio of 1/4 beans & 3/4 cracked corn and it ends up around 20 to 25% protein and the TDN and total feed value goes thru the roof.

There's a feed mill in town where I can get black strap feed grade molasses for 75 cent a gallon.

I mix 50 lbs of crushed sunflower seeds in with 150 lbs of whole unhulled rice (10% protein like corn) and mix 1/2 gallon of the molasses into it as I spin it.

When I sent a sample to the Aggies to evaluate they said it was 24% protein.

I end up with about $8 to $9 per hundred in it. The 18% dairy ration is $8.25 for 50 lbs at our local co-op feed store.


Larry    Posted 10-17-2002 at 19:35:48       [Reply]  [Send Email]
That's really a high price for carn as compared to around here. I got a wagon load of shelled corn last week for $2.60/bu.(56#). I bought another load after the price had gone down for $2.22/bu.


LH    Posted 10-17-2002 at 16:49:49       [Reply]  [No Email]
Dang your corn is expensive down there. I just paid $5.60 per 100 lbs today. And I suspicion it could be bought a whole heckuva lot cheaper off the combine if a feller had a grain wagon to haul it in.


Burrhead    Posted 10-18-2002 at 09:49:06       [Reply]  [No Email]
Yeah you other folks get a deal but nobody rouncheer grows corn.

The gubermint pays too good for rice.

I use rice cause goats love it and it's never over $7 a hunnerd and it's the same protein as corn.

If I buy it by the ton it usually is around $3-$5.


LH    Posted 10-18-2002 at 21:13:30       [Reply]  [No Email]
Rice is one grain I will not eat. Looks too much like maggots swimmin on a plate if you look at it long enough. As far as animal feed nobody round here grows it.


kraig WY    Posted 10-17-2002 at 15:51:16       [Reply]  [No Email]
Undigested corn in waste is normal. Sweet feed, if cheaper is good. But you're gonna get some undigested grain no matter what you feed them. Still have to feed ruffage. Watch that you don't get him too fat. You want a marbled appearence.


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