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I Despise Coyote's
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LH    Posted 11-01-2002 at 10:43:09       [Reply]  [No Email]
Went over to the farm earlier to finish mowing the pasture, and feed the critters. Had some breakdowns and did not get much mowing done. Also noticed our Pygmy nanny and her q month od kid were missing. I finally found waht little was left of the nanny in the back pasture, but couldn't find any traces of the kid. The coyotes are starting to kill livestock early this season, and I intend to kill every one of them I can. They always strike at night while the critters are bedded down, and by the time they realize what's happening it's too late and their dead. Rarely any signs of a struggle and only hide and a few bones left behind as evidence.


Renee    Posted 11-02-2002 at 17:52:11       [Reply]  [No Email]
LH aren't you the one that lives in Indiana, close to where I live? I haven't moved to my farm yet. (3 acres) and already I'm dreading the coyotes.
Renee


bandersnatch    Posted 11-01-2002 at 20:51:50       [Reply]  [No Email]
When we first moved to out farm, we had a snow day and everyone stayed home from work and school. My daughter, then six went outside with a box of stale crackers to feed her goats. At that time three nannies and five small kids. I wqas in the kitchen when she started screaming terrible. Two dogs had grabbed a goat kids and were trying to rip it apart right there within a few feet of her. I came out with the shotgun, but couldn't shoot because all the commotion was so close to her. One of the dogs, a lab started over the hill straight away on the far side of my daughter so he got away. the other, a big brown fuzzy dog, was too greedy and tried to carry away the screaming goat kid. By this time I had manuevered to where I could shoot. Took three shots to kill that dog. Threw it on a brush pile and gave him a viking funeral. A few days later a farmer down the road shot a lab. Some stranger came knocking a week later asking about a big fuzzy brown dog. I thought it might be the owner. I was all prepared to lie like H-e-l-l. She related that ten days earlier, this brown dog had killed two newborn lambs and her husband missed it with his rifle. She gave me a description and said she would pay a reward to see it dead. (sounded like a set-up to get me to fess up to shooting the dog. It was and I didn't fall for it. Turns out the stranger was a local dog warden.)


screaminghollow    Posted 11-01-2002 at 20:30:42       [Reply]  [Send Email]
when I was 14, there was a horrible problem with packs of wild dogs, some said to be coy-dogs on a military base near where I grew up. Dad got a few dead calves from a Dairy farmer and we chained the carcasses to metal stakes in a small open hollow. Three of us had tree stands over looking the hollow. Two guys sat in the back of a pickup at the top of the hill. We'd wait for a few dogs to come into the clearing and eventually packs of ten or fifteen would be ripping at the dead calves. When the warden fired the first shot the rest of us would join in. We killed almost thirty dogs in two days. Strange thing, we were almost seven miles from the nearest houses or farms. Who knows what might have happend if we hadn't wiped em out, might have been thousands of em running through that place.


DeadCarp - or a pack of dogs    Posted 11-01-2002 at 14:11:15       [Reply]  [No Email]
When our cow tails and underparts started getting tore up, we thought it was coyotes too, so one nite we heard a commotion in the corral and drove out there with a spotlite. Here was about a dozen dogs - all shapes and sizes, some we'd never seen before, but once they start packing up, they can be nasty! We kept feeding them lead and never told anybody - finally cured them. Never let a coyote close enough to bite.


DebR in MT    Posted 11-01-2002 at 12:31:57       [Reply]  [No Email]
Sorry to hear about your goats. We had a lot of trouble with dogs around here and we finally got a donkey. She's a really nice donkey with people but she hates dogs (except for the ones that we tell her are okay). I don't suppose it would help with coyotes but she stomps them with her feet and there's not much left when she's done. We lost 3 sheep, 2 chickens and a duck and we haven't lost any since we got the donkey. The worst thing with goats and sheep is they're so sweet and defenseless they don't even fight back.Good luck.


LH    Posted 11-01-2002 at 12:54:50       [Reply]  [No Email]
Deb we have a Llama, and 3 donkeys but it wasn't effective this time.


Donna from Mo    Posted 11-01-2002 at 12:18:08       [Reply]  [No Email]
I've had coyotes kill my geese, even with a feisty gander out there fighting them off. And I've had possums and racoons kill my chickens. But you know what? Somehow I can put up with them because there is no human responsible for their behavior (except maybe legislators). What really angers me is the packs of dogs that my neighbors let run. And there's really nothing I can do about it except to keep my poultry penned safely out of their reach. I've dealt with this situation in two different locations since 1968, since we first moved to the country. And I have found no solution. You can sneak around and shoot the dogs, and feel bad when the neighbor kids come to your door asking if you've seen their doggy. Or you can live with the situation and just be angry.


EIEIO    Posted 11-01-2002 at 11:07:11       [Reply]  [No Email]
I feel so bad for you. If anything happened to our little goat or sheep I would be so sad no not sad, devastated. This morning Halfpint was barking his something is out here bark so I went to the barn, no jacket but I am very paranoid not only because of the coyotes but those &$*%&^(*%^( dogs that we cant SSS YET! Anyway just as I got there he put his head through the back gate it opened and away he, goat, sheep and two barn cats ran to the woods. I sure do move fast for an old lady. I got Halfpint and everybody follows him, I guess cuz he protects them, put them in the pen and fixed the gate and thanked God I was there when that darn gate broke. All I could think of was something making a feast outta the critters and than I read your post. Do you think maybe, just maybe the kid is out there somewhere? What a tragic morning you have had and so sad.


LH    Posted 11-01-2002 at 11:44:06       [Reply]  [No Email]
EI the kid always stayed with his momma or our Nubian Doe so I'm pretty sure he's gone as well. I looked everywhere and no sign of him. In the past year we've lost 3 goats, and about 60 birds to the coyotes. I've had neighbors lose everything from bigger boxer dogs, all the way up through holstein calf sized critters. And I would not put it past them to take down a full grown cow or hoss if they get hungry. My neighbor told me the other evening he counted 16 of em running in one pack so that's a lot of kiiling power and a lot of mouths to feed.


C.J. in SD    Posted 11-01-2002 at 10:53:10       [Reply]  [No Email]
It got cold early here. Last night it was 3 above 0 and that was before the wind chill. It always brings out the Coyotes early. If they can't find enough on the farms they'll go into town and start killing stray dogs and cats. There are also at least a pair of cougars that live to the southwest between Belle and Alladin out in the rocks. Every once in a while we get lucky and theykill the coyotes.


Jim (Mi)    Posted 11-01-2002 at 11:00:15       [Reply]  [No Email]
C.J. Are you allowed to hunt Cougars up there? Or shot if they are a nuisance


C.J. in SD    Posted 11-01-2002 at 11:13:04       [Reply]  [No Email]
No. Thats a bad, bad no-no. Can't shoot the bears either. A couple of years ago during a meeting of the local farm and ranch association with the fish and wildwild life feds, a woman from an Oh So Sincere and Concerned Animal Rights Organization Proposed a plan of birth control for the coyote population. One of our crustier local characters told her (and I'm not kidding about this, I used to have a newspaper clipping on it but threw it out.) told her - "Lady the dam things don't screw my sheep, they eat them." Sheep ranches have all but disappeared in our area now. Depending where you are and what county you're in, shooting the coyotes is frowned on too, but that's usually only complained about when some rancher misses and accidently hits the wrong target on someone elses spread.


Jim (Mi)    Posted 11-01-2002 at 12:15:19       [Reply]  [No Email]
LOL, What a great quote. I am surprised in S.D. they are so hunting strict. Not even the bears, huh. My dad's used to be a real big bear hunter. My uncle in Canada has a Fly-in-service that does Fishing, Moose, and Bear hunts. He was also a tracker for him. Bear is actually very good meat. Especially with a little BBQ. I would think a cougar would be a great hunt. Kinda like hunting a bobcat here in Michigan. Coyote's and Foxes are still hunted pretty good here. I was talking to a guy last year walking on the road with a centerfire. I thought he was rabbit hunting so I stopped to say "Hi". He had a guy walk along the woods in between the fields, and the Coyote's would jump out way ahead of him of course, and he would nail em. I always figured they used hounds.


C.J. in SD    Posted 11-01-2002 at 12:34:43       [Reply]  [No Email]
Don't know about Michigan but west river SD we have few trees. The only thing we usually use dogs for here is birds. I think there's restrictions on what you can use dogs for. Bear habitat is disappearing, you usually only find them in the Black Hills and alot of that is National Forest. Because so much land out here is stock land, you really have to watch what and where you shoot. (You start shooting up some ranchers stock and they start shooting back!) There are too few cougars out here to hunt. The coyotes are very shy here. I lived here four years before I actually saw the first one, and it was running hard in the opposite direction. We've had a proplem with our deer being sick for the last couple of seasons so the pickings haven't been all that great. My son in law seems to get his every year and so does my daughter. They also get a variety of birds; from duck to turkey. But they also eat almost every scrap of what they kill, from steaks to jerky. I've had bear and frankly find it pretty disggusting stuff no matter how you disguise it. Since it carries more trichanosis bacteria than pigs and can be disabling or even deadly, I avoid it. Don't know about Canada or out of state hunting. Only ever hunted for food. Figured if I could afford to go to Canada to hunt I could afford to fill the freezer at the grocery and didn't need to fool with the time away from home to go hunting. Too much to do there.


Salmoneye    Posted 11-02-2002 at 04:54:07       [Reply]  [Send Email]
Bear meat is delicious depending on their feed...

Get one that has been grubbing and eating bark, dump fed or stink bait shot and I agree...the meat is terrible...

Get one that has been eating blueberrys, blackberrys, apples and nuts for two months and bear will stand up against almost any other wild game for flavour...


JIM W.TX.    Posted 11-04-2002 at 07:40:25       [Reply]  [Send Email]
Iv'e lost a few cats to Coyote's. I'm raising hogs now. There's no trees where I live. Just flat cotton fields, but those coyote's can hide anywhere. My pigs have been okay so far. I been thinking about setting out steel teeth traps, but I sure would hate to forget where I put one and step on it.


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