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Repairing old pole barn
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Denise    Posted 11-15-2002 at 19:36:42       [Reply]  [Send Email]
I have a dilemma. Just purchased a house and HUD has stated either I repair an old pole barn out back or tear it down. I don't have the money to build a new one. The structure itself (the frame) is good, however, the roof (flat-poor choice) has rotted clear through. The floor is dirt. The frame is pressure treated and covered with old t-111 and would come off easy. The size is about 25 x 15. It comes complete with a dead opossum skeleton!
Here are my questions:
Could I convert this into an outdoor structure, ie; a pergola? by tearing off the roof and walls and leaving the basic structure-maybe covering it with wisteria.
Should I just tear it down and put up a cheap shed?
Or should I find someone to repair it and what would something like that cost (figuring on ripping off the walls and roof, adding a slant to the roof so snow/rain will run off and replacing the walls)
Any help apreciated!

ger    Posted 11-16-2002 at 10:41:03       [Reply]  [No Email]
denise they want you to fix it up an put nice sideing on an make it look good cause when they asses it it will be worth more an thus they can collect more taxes from you , they do it around here all the time ,

DeadCarp - needs?    Posted 11-16-2002 at 07:42:54       [Reply]  [No Email]
Depends on how bad you need the building right now - if yes, then it's worth some money. If i were faced with the same deal right now, i'd tear the thing down, start pulling nails and see how much of it is worth sheltering til somebody needs the parts - a board is a board :)

Smedley Somewhat*********UUMMMMM    Posted 11-16-2002 at 03:43:24       [Reply]  [No Email]
Why'd ya ever get envolved with them hud'yud suckers anyways?

Hal/WA    Posted 11-15-2002 at 22:14:35       [Reply]  [No Email]
Do you know anyone with experience building pole structures? I would try to find someone to look at what you have who would give you an honest, educated opinion about saving what you have. Putting on new trusses on the existing poles may not be too expensive to have done by a pro (they need to use a small crane) and adding a metal roof over purlins is a job that is not too bad for an average person to do. I would ask for estimates to have the pro just do the trusses, to do all the framing and apply the roof, and another estimate to finish the whole outside of the structure.

For the walls, unless the T-111 is really badly delaminated or torn up, I would just put metal over it rather than taking it down.

For most areas, it is well worth it to get the plastic and fiberglass insulation that is specially made to put under metal roofing. If you don't do this, when it is humid, you get condensation on the underside of the metal roofing and then get lots of drips inside. It is not too expensive or difficult to add the insulation as you apply the metal, but it is a real mistake to not bother with it. The insulation is MUCH easier to install as you install the metal rather than trying to go back and do it afterwards. Don't ask how I know that!

Use the proper metal building screws to apply the metal rather than nails. If you use enough screws, you will never have to do much in the way of maintainance to the outside of the building. With nails, in my experience, you end up having to go back and pound them back in, or the metal panels move around. It is no fun trying to nail a metal roof back down in a windstorm.

I have never seen a pole building with a flat roof. How did the "builders" do the roof structure? And is the roof tarred? If the structure is OK, it wouldn't be hard at all to just add conventional trusses over the existing roof. You would want to tie them down real well though.

Did the HUD people say anything about the pole building being hazardous? If not, I am guessing they are only concerned about the resalability (looks) of the property, if you end up being unable to pay for it and they get it back. I would fix it up and increase the value of the property.

TB    Posted 11-16-2002 at 07:31:20       [Reply]  [No Email]
I concur. With the additional possibility that vinyl or aluminum siding can be put on almost any building and make it look good. And I would not wish the problems with some wisteria on any one.

Denise    Posted 11-16-2002 at 14:19:18       [Reply]  [Send Email]
Thanks everyone! Great ideas, I am going to look into repairing it, I appreciate the time effort and detail you put into your responses!

To the questions as to why I bothered getting into a hud owned building? Well, I am dirt poor, and have two kids and need a place to live, there just aren't any decent rentals in our area unless I want to go into the city. HUD will give me the money to fix this up and my payments will still be low and I will be living in a really good town with a great school district and own some really nice forest property too.

Hogman**********Your answer is well taken,    Posted 11-16-2002 at 17:40:49       [Reply]  [No Email]
It's just that Hud has been a cess pool of money and politics since the beginning, do a little good, do a lot of bad. Was envolved with one only project but was enough for My tender Soul! Money is to squander,don't that help the econemy? Specialy if it's tha stupid tax payers money. No smile here!

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