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On nutria and genetic engineering....
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Tom A    Posted 11-21-2002 at 05:32:50       [Reply]  [Send Email]
The link below is from BBC news report on a U.S. scientist who is going to create a whole new life form using genetic engineering.

It struck me as timely because of 2 of yesterday's discussions here on the board, one on Genetically Modified (GM) plants, and the other was my question about nutria.

Seems that few folks responded to the question about GM, but of the ones that did very few thought there was anything wrong with it. One person even implied that those of us who distrusted or opposed it are "paranoid."

As far as the Nutria goes, turns out it was an introduced species...brought here in good faith in the belief that it would help people. After the act was done, we discovered that it was a big mistake, but like Pandora's box once opened the evil can't be put back into it ever again. There are lots of similar stories ("killer" bees, bermuda grass, chinese honeysuckle...)

Now here we are going to create a new life form. Legal? sure, and maybe it should be. A good idea? I sure don't see how. As I said before: we just don't know enough to be messing around with this kind of thing, regardless of promises of great benefits. We don't even know enough about the risks to ask a good question yet! And the GM crops are the same way--difference is that we're introducing them into the environment without a lot of choice on most folks' part. I guess money talks.

Tom A

bob    Posted 11-21-2002 at 08:33:08       [Reply]  [No Email]
seems like every time we make it better the price goes down. If every farmer forgot the fertilizer and did it for two years the price would raise and profit would be in farmers hands instead of chemical companys Maybe even get so yoy could make a living on small farm. Nowdays you are just buying a job.pogress is great but it can hurt too

Ana- scarey world, hugh?    Posted 11-21-2002 at 08:05:28       [Reply]  [No Email]
Did you see the news a few days ago about children that were born by use of those infertility methods are now having a high rate of genetic diseases?

hay    Posted 11-21-2002 at 06:04:54       [Reply]  [No Email]
my belief is that them scientists are gonna eventually uncover something that they really don't want to know or are not able to control. such things would be GM diseases/virus or human/animal mutations. the few benefits to mankind is greatly outweighed by the potential for a disaster on a global scale.

Jim Adams    Posted 11-21-2002 at 11:39:19       [Reply]  [Send Email]
I find that one problem with being older is that I forget that people I am talking with haven't seen the same changes that I have. They don't remember when 14 bushels was a pretty good wheat crop. They probally don't believe me when I remark
that the lean strips in today's bacon are wider than the fat strips used to be. Most don't remember when Doctors made fun of vitamins or sent you to have all your teeth pulled because you had an "Infection" someplace.
We got these changes thru scientific study that
led to selective breeding of stock to bring out the desired traits,intentional crossing of plants
to promote yield and disease resistance, and studies that told us more about how our bodies worked.
These studies told us that plants, and humans, had
to have certain chemicals in their food to grow and stay healthy. The studies were a slow process.
Essentially tho, they were about the same as the
Genetic Engineering we talk about today. I'm sure
there will be some unexpected results but there will also be a lot of benefits.With our exploding world population we are going to need all the benefits we can get in our food production.


LH    Posted 11-21-2002 at 08:19:10       [Reply]  [No Email]
My belief is that God created life and decided upon its form. if things evolve naturally thats fine but scientific intervention under the guise of research or whatever, is nothing more than a modern day version of Frankenstein, and should be outlawed

hay    Posted 11-21-2002 at 09:17:39       [Reply]  [No Email]
i agree 100% with you, LH.

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