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DeadCarp    Posted 12-09-2002 at 20:52:39       [Reply]  [No Email]

This is supposed to be a typical farm house in Southern Ontario - are they kidding or are you guys kinda all well off? :)


Bob /Ont.    Posted 12-10-2002 at 06:26:40       [Reply]  [Send Email]
Yes DC.it would be a typical Southern Ont farm. The thing you have to remember here is that Houses last a long time, that one is well over a hundred years old. The land here is as good as you find anywhere and lots of rain too. When that house and many like it where built times where prosperous for farmers. The good times come and go in cycles and many such farms are now growing a crop of subdivision.
Later Bob


ger / hey bob    Posted 12-10-2002 at 06:48:07       [Reply]  [No Email]
is that in your area or just where in souther ont? its a beautiful house


Bob /Ont.    Posted 12-10-2002 at 07:00:16       [Reply]  [Send Email]
Ger if you draw a line from the east end of Lake Ont. to Georgian Bay then all the area from the line to Windsor had good farms like that. That one is still well kept up, many have been sold and let rundown and almost all with in 30 miles of Toronto are covered with houses or businesses. 40% of the population of Canada lives from that line to Windsor too.
Later Bob


ger    Posted 12-10-2002 at 08:04:22       [Reply]  [No Email]
yes i guess that would put alot of pressure on farmland being that close to a city that big , its just a beautiful place , you can tell its maintained well an even the hay crop in front looks great compared to stuff we get here, its too bad we are losing ourfarmland to housing an bussiness but i guess the pressure is on an as the old timers retire not enough younger one s are iterested in the hard work an low pay , thanks bob looks like a beautiful place, later ger


Spence    Posted 12-10-2002 at 11:38:12       [Reply]  [No Email]
Ger:

Bout 7 years back, a 100 acre farm (I'm from
Cornwall, Ontario) ran something like 120000 to 190000$ Can. Now we have the western Europeans coming in and buying them up fast. There's nothing wrong with that as they've been saving all their life. Not like us over here, they save like crazy.
Thing is, it screws up the market in favor of these people.

So now the market is for 500000$+ for a working
100 acre farm and victorian style house such as
this. They usually want the seller to leave everything there, cows,machinery the whole bit.

You can still buy a 20 to 60 acre Hobby farm
in my sector (Cornwall) for 80+ for a "this old house" special, and 110+ for one with no work.
Our regional laws prohibit partitioning of large tracts of agricultural land except in special cases, so these hobby farms fill the nitches in odd ball sized lots, or where the land is marginal. They call it a handy man's special in the Real Estate ads, but they're more like a Bob Villa special, with rotten beams and stone foundations that are breaking apart.

Our soil is sandy loam but interspersed with
bolder glacial till, and gravel moraines. It's not uncommon to see pasteur land full of bolders, the farmers making the wise decision to leave it be.
A good idea of the land here is a drive thru Vermont. Around Ottawa,Casselman,Winchester you get a plateau type situation with more clay/sandy loam mix, but less rock. Soil there is A1 and the prices show it.


ger    Posted 12-10-2002 at 11:55:46       [Reply]  [No Email]
hi spence thanks for the input , seems like lovely country i came through ont both south an north but it was way back when i was a kid i was on the train comming west but i remember it and it was a beautiful area an i really liked quebec especially the rural parts an the eastern townships , i know what you saying about the europeans an others its the same here they just want to get away from where there at an start over , guess thats still the pioneer thing, but yes it does make it hard drives up the vaules an the taxs here a 5 ac. piece just sold for 150000 guy built a house on it he was from florida after 911 had to sell some cola guy just bought it 599000 going to teardown the house an build a new one doesn,t like the style of the old one 2 yrs old lol. they are turing this area into a shi resort town now an the prices are showing it , for me i guess i,ll stay as long as i can afford the taxes but i,ll have to someday make a decision to sell an leave or if i wait too long i,ll end up losing it to the tax man anyway , i hate to leave i,ve put alot into this place but i guess you can,t stop progress , thanks again , and nice to hear from you an that part of the country , i don,t know all that much about but im always interested , thanks . ger


Bob /Ont.    Posted 12-10-2002 at 08:15:41       [Reply]  [Send Email]
Ger, it was the good land around Toronto that caused it to grow to the place it is. 150 years ago they had to rely on local grown food and they had plenty of it. That's when the money was made farming around here. Easy transportation of imported food killed the local production. If the flow of cheap imported food ever stops there might be a problem though.
Later Bob


ger    Posted 12-10-2002 at 08:22:57       [Reply]  [No Email]
sooner or later i feel it will stop an the land that we have left will have to be put back into production again in order to feed an ever growing population , course i could be wrong , maybe by then some drug company will come out with a pill to feed us an that s all we,ll need , they seeem to be doin stuff like that in every other field , later ger


Bob /Ont.    Posted 12-10-2002 at 08:29:21       [Reply]  [Send Email]
Ger the Okanagan went the same way, an old guy who grew up there told me that the valley was full of canning plants at one time but no more.
Later Bob


ger    Posted 12-10-2002 at 08:52:43       [Reply]  [No Email]
yup your right bob especially around kelowna, but in b.c. we have an ag land reserve, its far from perfect but it does provide some protection in perserve ing farm land however this present govt. is finding ways to get around it. heres a fact for ya though less than 1% of the total land mass of b.c. is suitable for any typing of farming, wonder when the cheap imports stop who will feed us lol . later ger


ger /bob lives    Posted 12-09-2002 at 21:23:49       [Reply]  [No Email]
in a place in canada that they themselves call the center of the universe now i suppose that may be bob,s place lol , gotta look for that new manure spreader parked out back , sorry bob couldn,t resist


Bob /Ont.    Posted 12-10-2002 at 07:44:39       [Reply]  [Send Email]
Seasons Greetings Ger. Have you got your Holiday Tree up yet?
Later Bob from the Center Of The Universe


ger    Posted 12-10-2002 at 08:09:18       [Reply]  [No Email]
haha always the polictal correct friend from the centre of the universe huh? nope no holiday tree yet im still in the bah humg bug mode guess i,ll have to get at it soon, still out raking the lawn an stuff , hard to get into the holiday sprit when your still doin the summer stuff but i hear that,s all supposed to change here starting later on today and we,re 6 ft. behind already so i guess i,ll gas up the tractor and get ready lol. an a happy holidays to you an your lovely wife an if your talking to dan an trish wish them well for us also, later ger


ger / an a    Posted 12-10-2002 at 08:11:10       [Reply]  [No Email]
special happy holiday to their new baby , this will the first right ? thats special


Bob /Ont.    Posted 12-10-2002 at 08:26:25       [Reply]  [Send Email]
Thanks Ger, thought you would like that COTU Christmas Greeting eh. When we where driving home the only thing on the radio news out there about Toronto was the Holiday tree/Christmas tree thing. Today on the news you may hear that some of the Hard Up local and provincial politicians, a few of their friends and some TV Newsmen have been getting a much needed discount on their property taxes. Can't think of a better use of tax dollers can you.
Later Bob


ger    Posted 12-10-2002 at 08:56:59       [Reply]  [No Email]
just been listening to the morin news out here an nothing suprises me anymore bob , i always said i know people in jail who have more ethics than those who govern us lol , ten year anniverasy of the NORTH FREE TRADE AGREEMENT today they all celeberating i guess muloriney an bush sr.


Bob /Ont.    Posted 12-10-2002 at 09:09:55       [Reply]  [Send Email]
Ger I always thought a lot of old Bush but when you see the company he keeps I start to wonder.
Later Bob


ger / haha    Posted 12-10-2002 at 09:14:54       [Reply]  [No Email]
yup did any body ever tell ya , you have a way with words lol , yup maybe brian will teach him the note,s to when irish eyes are smiling


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