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Where to Get Bareroot Hybrid Poplar Seedlings?
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Lynch in E.TX    Posted 12-19-2002 at 16:09:10       [Reply]  [Send Email]
Anybody know a good source for super-fast growing hybrid poplar tree seedlings? Want to plant a couple of thousand and the nursery here is ALWAYS sold-out. Lynch


THANK YOU TO ALL THAT ANSWERED    Posted 12-24-2002 at 15:07:53       [Reply]  [Send Email]
THANKS AGAIN....LYNCH


SteveB    Posted 12-20-2002 at 07:16:43       [Reply]  [Send Email]
Go to the link below, Musser Forests. While the link shows it sold in quantities of 5 they do sell in large quantities at a large discount. I have purchased trees in quantities of 500 and found there pricing to be very reasonable.


THANKS, STEVE B    Posted 12-24-2002 at 15:14:32       [Reply]  [Send Email]
I'LL CHECK IT OUT. LYNCH


dave 50 8n    Posted 12-19-2002 at 21:46:58       [Reply]  [No Email]
Here in People's Republic of California, the CA Dept. of Forestry (CDF) has a division that collects seeds from a bunch of different trees from all parts of the state (they got a gridded system), and plants them ever year.

When you buy seedlings, they try to get as close to your grid as they can, so you'll have trees resistent to local bugs, etc.

I think they grew some 200,000 seedlings this year. I got some cork oak, incense cedar, pacific dogwood, and sierra redwood seedlings.

You might want to talk w/the Texas equivalent of the CDF.

OR...check with the local USDA Rural Development..etc. etc. They might have a biologist to provide advice...and perhaps some free seedlings...


Lynch    Posted 12-24-2002 at 15:06:47       [Reply]  [Send Email]
ALREADY HAVE...THE NURSERYS CAN'T KEEP UP WITH DEMAND....THANKS, THOUGH...LYNCH

P.S. I HAVE A GAL THAT WORKS FOR TEXAS FOREST SERVICE THAT DOES COST ANALYSIS AND A BUNCH OF OTHER STUFF FOR ME FOR FREE...ANYONE IN TEXAS CAN GET THE SAME TREATMENT.


Dave 2N    Posted 12-19-2002 at 19:05:45       [Reply]  [Send Email]
Yah, they grow fast and make a strong windbreak all right. And they die fast too. Don't plant them too near your house. On second thought, don't get any at all. Pin oaks are a better tree and grow fairly fast too. And in reality, they are a weed tree.


TB    Posted 12-19-2002 at 17:39:09       [Reply]  [No Email]
I thought some Hybrid Poplars could be easely rooted from cuttings. way buy? I don't think I have ever seen a Poplar seed.


Les the forester    Posted 12-19-2002 at 16:22:32       [Reply]  [No Email]
Good grief!! Why in the world would anybody want any stinkin popple trees? I will never understand that unless that's the only thing that will grow there. They are nasty weeds.


AND IN 10-15 YEARS...    Posted 12-24-2002 at 15:18:06       [Reply]  [Send Email]
THEY MAKE FURNITURE GRADE LUMBER...I'LL LET YOU KNOW HOW MUCH MY FIRST CHECK IS...PINE JUST DOESN'T GROW AS FAST UNLESS ALL YOU WANT IS X-MAS TREES....LYNCH


Lynch    Posted 12-24-2002 at 15:11:57       [Reply]  [Send Email]
BECAUSE THE PAPER MILLS WILL PAY FOR THEM...AND YOU CAN SEND THEM TO THE MILL EVERY 5-6 YEARS.


bill b va    Posted 12-20-2002 at 02:04:46       [Reply]  [No Email]

better not try to tell the lumber industry that .the good mushmooms love to grow under them .


Nathan(GA)    Posted 12-19-2002 at 19:59:27       [Reply]  [No Email]
Hey Les, I don't mean to be ugly when I say this, but WHAT KIND OF TREE DO YOU LIKE?????? I always see you talking bad about certain trees, but have never seen you talk about any that you like. It's possible I've missed the ones you do like. If so, I apologize.

I'm not sure about the hybrid poplar, but the old ones here bring good money. Back when I drove a truck, I hauled some so big, only 3 would fit on the tractor trailer.


Les    Posted 12-20-2002 at 03:05:20       [Reply]  [No Email]
I particularly dislike "popple" trees, whether they be quaking aspen, lombardy poplar, cottonwood, balsam poplar. Like Salmoneye said, they stink and they are a persistent, invasive nuisance.
I'm sorry I've left the impression that there aren't any trees that I like. Nothing could be further from the truth. Here in New England, we have these great northern hardwoods. My favorites are White Ash and Sugar Maple. Others are red oak, beech, white birch, yellow birch, soft maple. Lots of softwoods, too, like red and white pines, hemlock, red and white spruce, balsam fir (the only tree to have as a Christmas tree) and Salmoneye's favorite, tamarack.
Any tree is fine in its place and any tree can be a nuisance. For instance, a good place for a popple to be would be next to a beaver pond.



Nathan(GA)    Posted 12-20-2002 at 20:19:46       [Reply]  [No Email]
Thanks for the clarification Les! I guess you do like some trees. ;^) Yall got all the pretty trees up there. Besides pine, about all we got here is oak and sweetgum with the occasional poplar and sycymore thrown in. Yall are right about the red oak stinking. But the poplar here doesn't stink.


Larry    Posted 12-20-2002 at 19:32:11       [Reply]  [Send Email]

I planted a few of the hybrid cottonwood trees in my yard for fast growing shade. A lot of people around here plant a soft maple for shade trees. Those usually last about 75 years around here before they become widow makers. I was hoping the cottonwoods would at least last that long.
A weed tree around here is the boxelder tree. They choke up fence rows and are not even good for fire wood.Throwing a hunk of boxelder in a wood stove is like throwing a bucket of water on the fire. Other weed trees around my place are choke cherry.mulberry,and even black walnut. I know most of you think that a black walnut tree could be valuble in time,but I'll never live long enough to see a decent log out of any that are growing around here. Every fall all I need to do to get a bunch of them started is to run over the nuts with a tractor and push them in the ground. Next spring the yard is full of the little buggers.

Back when I used to have a sawmill I cut a lot of cottonwood for farmers. It made a pretty decent construction lumber. As long as you didn't use it out side. I have a freind that has a machine shed on his place that was built from the lumber of one big cotton wood log. Probably been standing there for at least 50-75 years.


Salmoneye    Posted 12-20-2002 at 04:43:00       [Reply]  [Send Email]
Hey Les...what's Ash going for this season...Red Oak for that matter...If I could find a bored logger, I think I might have enough to pay for a new 2x6 arch and pans...I think...lol

Only reason I hate Tamarac is that they are a fast growing weed up around my Dads' camp...He is not in any shape to keep em cleared so I get the honour...at least he stays in camp wood for free...

I just wish they would make up their minds...deciduous...evergreen...pick one and stick with it, I say...

;-)


Les    Posted 12-20-2002 at 13:47:56       [Reply]  [No Email]
I believe the market for Ash has been depressed for a long time.
Burrhead is right about the oak smellin like cat litter, for sure. I sawed millions of board feet of the stuff back in the '79s and '80s. he lumber is pretty and it makes good fahrwood if you let it dry (which takes forever) but it sure does stink. I burn a lot of oak but since the wood never has to come inside the house, I don't care what it smells like.


Burrhead    Posted 12-19-2002 at 17:54:31       [Reply]  [No Email]
They grow fast and make a strong wind break.

The wood outtuh them nasty popple weeds bring around $6 to $7 per bf here.


Salmoneye    Posted 12-20-2002 at 02:21:02       [Reply]  [Send Email]
They do grow fast...I'll give em that...

Other than that, they are a stinkin weed...and I mean that literally...the wood stinks like cat pee when drying and it aint worth spit up here in the north...No one will burn it as firewood either...not even me, and I take anything that is free...

They are one tree that 'runs' underground and will throw up shoots off the roots...If you do not mow or cut around them they choke themselves and get too tall and spindly too fast and then they are useless as timber...

My Great Uncle planted three 50+ years ago and I am still trying to kill em back to just those three...constant battle...


Lynch    Posted 12-24-2002 at 15:09:54       [Reply]  [Send Email]
IN LOGGIN COUNTRY IN OREGON THE GROW 1000'S OF ACRES OF IT FOR PAPER.


Burrhead    Posted 12-20-2002 at 12:44:25       [Reply]  [No Email]
Around here the poplar don't spred much from roots and the only place they volunteer spred is in rich ground with moisture like around creek beds or ponds.

Yellow or gray poplar makes some of the most beautiful furniture ye ever saw.

They don't stink here, but red oak and burr oak smell like a litter box.

What we have trouble with is Chinese Tallow trees. Birds scatter the seeds along fence rows when they roost and they are very aggressive and fast growing. The bad part is the wood is absolutely useless. No good for lumber or fire wood at all.

Tallows aint even good shade. They secrete a ooze that drains ever night and wind drifts onto cars or whatever and ruins paint jobs moscoshie.


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