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Brian    Posted 06-18-2001 at 09:10:34       [Reply]  [Send Email]
Does anybody have plans to build a simple tandem axle trailer. I would be willing to pay for copying and mailing. I have a set of axles and want to build a trailer to haul my tractor to shows.
~Brian


Dean    Posted 01-08-2004 at 19:41:06       [Reply]  [Send Email]
House trailer axles usually have smaller bearings and spindles than a normal axles designed for a specific weight. This means the spindle and bearings are more prone to cracking/fatigue/failure a/c a lower factor of safety by design. Road conditions can change the rate at which these components fail, too. Gravel or washboard roads, subject the components to higher rates of cyclic loading, and pot holes induce shock. As axles are flexing, "cracking" is happening. Be it on an atomic scale, when enough energy has been absorbed by the components and they receive a sudden jolt or load, they will fail, at times explosively. Big bearings and axles, at loads well under their designed carrying abilities don't see this, hence their factor of safety is now very high. If you play with matches, eventually you will get burned.


Pat    Posted 09-19-2002 at 22:34:14       [Reply]  [Send Email]
Geez Guys, the gentleman just asked for a place to get some trailer plans. Brian, go to Trailerplans.com. you'll find something there that should work for you.


hay    Posted 06-19-2001 at 04:06:44       [Reply]  [No Email]
i do not know where you are located, but here in se texas, i have found several new and good used trailers (16' lowboys) for sale at very reasonable prices. even found one new trailer on a flea market lot for $675. i do not think anyone could build one for that considering the time and sweat and welding supplies needed. if i were you i would seriously look in the classified section of the newspaper or like someone else said to get one of the "equipment trader" magazines at the local conv store. they usually have tons and tons of trailers and other tractor goodies in them. sometime they do have some really good bargains.


Old Warrior    Posted 06-18-2001 at 19:38:41       [Reply]  [No Email]
They're right! I've seen many guys get caught up with building a trailer. The parts & welding soon exceed new cost, then they reverse the shackles or use flimsy wheels or the wrong ply tires or something, and pay a log truck to hoist the mess & fetch it home from another state.
If you're not creating a tight schedule here - start looking thru the pictures in a $2 equipment magazine from the gas station. Many good, cheap, rated used trailers there. Then you're down to fighting with a decent hitch.



Cal S    Posted 06-18-2001 at 18:05:41       [Reply]  [No Email]
Brian, best kept secret around is the location to buy a good trailer at reasonable cost. Take a trip to Sikeston Mo. several trailer factories there and real good prices. Was though there 3 weeks ago and priced out a 20 foot gooseneck with 4 foot dovetail two 6000 lb axles for $3500. Also electric brakes on both axles. pull behind bumper with 10000 gvw can be had for $1500.


Jon    Posted 04-17-2004 at 17:28:42       [Reply]  [Send Email]
I was told i could find a trailer in Sikeston, I'm looking for an enclosed 7 1/2 or 8 1/2 by 20 foot trailers. Where is a good place to look?


JoeK    Posted 06-18-2001 at 12:16:18       [Reply]  [No Email]
I was in the same situation awhile back,Plans are readily available from several sources such as Northen Tool.However,by the time you purchase the proper steel,hitch,jacks,accessories,decking and hardware,you are very near the cost of buying a new professionally built trailer,less the time, sweat and headaches of building yourself.Good used trailer is even cheaper.Just my experiences.

PS:If the axles you have are mobile home ones,be cautious,they are made to survive delivery of the trailer,not much more.I would never use them on anything other than a short haul utility trailer,nothing hauling a valuable heavy load any distance.


Gary    Posted 06-18-2001 at 12:39:31       [Reply]  [Send Email]
You're exactly right about the mobile home axles,
and they are illegal under US DOT laws also,also
illegal to run mobile home tires on equipment trailer.The hassle DOT can give you with a home made trailer makes it not worth it really.


Wolf, that's funny....    Posted 06-20-2001 at 07:16:38       [Reply]  [No Email]
Perfectly legal in Missery!!! And homemade trailers have to be inspected thoroughly before initial licensing. We've run several trailers that were homemade with mobile home axles under them.


Claude    Posted 01-02-2003 at 04:46:20       [Reply]  [Send Email]
How thight should the nut be. (trailer wheel hub. ) And How much grease should one put, when
Changing bearings.

Thank You
CT




Gary    Posted 06-20-2001 at 08:10:02       [Reply]  [Send Email]
The new DOT rules outlaw them,if you already had
one I think you are grandfathered,but new ones on
mobile home axles are illegal according to information I got,also there must be a brake on
all axles now.


Robert in W. Mi.    Posted 06-20-2001 at 16:12:42       [Reply]  [Send Email]
Around here there are LOT's of home made, and even some mfg. trailors useing house trailor axles. I have one my self, but (18,000 GVW rated, all with brakes) all House trailors axles aren't created equil. Some are rated much better than others. There's nothing wrong with these axles, but there IS with the tires!! They ARE a "one way" tire!! I bought low boy tires from my tire shop, for my trailor, and the new tires are of high quality tire.
BTW, the places here that deliver these double wides, and modular homes, are still buying the axles back from the buyers to use over and over again!!! If they were junk, they wouldn't do this!
Robert


Johnny    Posted 06-20-2001 at 17:20:53       [Reply]  [No Email]
The trailer house axles are completely rebuilt before going under another trailer house, A rebuilder about 10 miles from me does this, he keeps 20 truck trailers hopping from state to state buying used axles and reconditioning them. Yes, they are junk compared to a real trailer axle, they are designed for one way transport a of less than 1000 miles. If you are going to be hauling 5000 lbs down the highway at 70 mph, then use good equipment. Loosing a loaded trailer is no fun and ain't worth the cost savings. I speak from experience and glad I did not get anybody killed. Johnny


Robert in W. Mi.    Posted 06-21-2001 at 10:49:56       [Reply]  [Send Email]
How do they rebuild them??? I've had them apart to repack them. They are just like anyone elses axles, and the berring can be bought from Timkin just like every bodys elses. What's to be junk?????????
Not argueing with you at all, i just don't see the problem with the design, or where they are inferior??
With the proper tires, updated springs, and staying with in the weight rateings, lots of them are hauling heavy loads all around here. I have NO problem hauling my dozer on mine!
The guy that mfg. mine, (a near by friend) is "licensed and bonded"!!! He's build a huge amount of them, and i've not seen any fail yet, mines over 10 years old, and he's been building them longer than that!!
Robert


Johnny    Posted 06-21-2001 at 20:44:27       [Reply]  [No Email]
They take them apart and clean them, inspect for cracked welds, etc., they replace the bearing with a highter quality them the original manuf.,replace the nut and washer, replace brake parts if the have them. Law here in Texas says the axles have to be done this way to go back under a new trailer house. This info from State Trooper. I just might get an old one and compare it to a regular axle. He said these are engineered and tested to be a one way axle. Although I have seen many new trailer houses on the side of the road with axle/wheel problems, and believe me they build a ton of them around here. I'm no expert, but I do know what it is like to have your trailer pass you! If you have good luck with them I would think as long as you kept them packed and a high quality bearing in them they would be o.k. Myself I would not even dare use them again. Johnny in E.Tx


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