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Is it just me?
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DeadCarp    Posted 12-26-2002 at 17:33:55       [Reply]  [No Email]
I used to pass off bickering in a derogatory manner - called it "teenybopper melodrama" or worse, and that was that. But lately, i've come to realize we each have our own throttles.(for lack of a better vocabulary:)

I still think they're associated with age, cuz it seems like younger people are making decisions and moving so fast, i can't keep up with them. Nowdays i notice 40-yr-olds having an argument, making up and arguing about something else again, all in the time it takes me to shave!

There was a time when i'd feel threatened and launch into a debate on religion or some darn thing, convinced that MY ideas were so all-fired important, i wanted to make sure nobody missed the truth - well now i think i could spend a year with some gal who worshiped Aloe Vera, and not get flustered. Might even smear a little on myself, to see what all the shouting's about.....

Then we come to the internet, and i gotta admit, when i read my first religious message board, i left some stinky message and didn't come back for awhile. When i saw my first Freedom of Speech banner, i chuckled and had some choice thoughts about that. When i saw somebody saying what a good preacher Hitler would have made, i wasn't too tickled either. Even today i wouldn't admit this to everybody, but it turned out, it wasn't "them" but "me" that had some learning to do.

Just cuz it wasn't a declared subject when i went to school, doesn't make it wrong or forbidden. Just cuz OUR Sunday School teacher didn't hammer it into our heads, doesn't mean it's not important to somebody. I've discovered these people aren't especially like me, but they get by alright WITHOUT MY rules, and frankly, those are good folks too & i enjoy the diversity so i'm trying - and Lord willing, someday i'll be able to chat with almost anybody - maybe learn something :)

Anybody else going thru this? :)

Ludwig    Posted 12-28-2002 at 07:11:00       [Reply]  [No Email]
Rule #1 Don't sweat the small stuff.
Rule #b Its all small stuff.

My bloodpressure has stayed WAY down since I reverted to "mostly lurk" mode on these boards. I don't get in half the trouble I used to. Sure I occasionally get into trouble, but if you're only sometimes in trouble its way easier to get back out...

Ron/PA    Posted 12-27-2002 at 12:28:35       [Reply]  [No Email]
DC, I've had the good fortune to be exposed to several older gents that gave me some good advice at a time when it would sink in.
One of them told me, after being witness to a heated debate on religion,,
"why do you argue? your beliefs are YOURS! Part of the reason you argue is that someone tried to instill their beliefs on you, and you got mad and tried to turn the tables,,, Doesn't that make you as bad as them?"
I thought that over, saw the sense of it, and have tried not to argue religion, politics, or other opinions since then.
Not saying I'm right, just that it isn't worth getting a headache over, I can listen to any side now and if I don't agree, I feel that at least I know what the enemy is planning!!!(grin)

Nah DC...    Posted 12-27-2002 at 02:22:43       [Reply]  [Send Email]
I learned that stuff years ago...

'Don't sweat the small stuff', and 'It's only life...You'll never get out of it alive'...Oh Yeah...And 'Please pass the Poi'...


Maggie/TX    Posted 12-26-2002 at 21:08:46       [Reply]  [No Email]
DC, if more folks were as laid back in their attitudes and as non-judgemental as you then I think we'd have a lot fewer wars going on.

Larry    Posted 12-26-2002 at 20:22:47       [Reply]  [Send Email]

The trick is to give your opinion and not make it sound like you're trying to force it on them. Kind of like Irish diplomacy. The ability to tell someone to go to he!!,and at the same time make them happy they're going on a trip.

screaminghollow    Posted 12-26-2002 at 20:20:21       [Reply]  [Send Email]
Seems I get more tolerant and accepting of many things as I age. I do enjoy a good debate, but more now for the mental excercise than to prove a point. It seems I understand both sides of an issue with increasing frequency. And it is still devlish fun to hear some close minded person's remark about something and then take the opposite position in a way that points out how ridiculous their position is. Or even agree with them but to such an extreme that it makes their position seem ridiculous.
Some things don't bother me at all anymore and some things aggravate me far more than when I was younger. I care less about the "rightness" of what someone says and a great deal more about their right to say it. I detest thieves and cheats even more than I used to. I realize that in my young days I was quite racist and bigoted, for which I am truly sorry. More and more I realize that most people have both good and bad attributes and very few people are pure evil. Yes, Amen! and ditto for me.

Nathan(GA)    Posted 12-26-2002 at 19:09:55       [Reply]  [No Email]
My wife is slowly, but surely convincing me that I'm not right about everything. :^(

Buck    Posted 12-26-2002 at 18:45:56       [Reply]  [No Email]

Man that is some HEAVY thinking you going through there. You been smoking anything relaxin lately. Better be keeping a lookout for your interest in hair repalcement adds and any sudden interest in little red sports cars with removable tops. Should you find yourself drawn to one of them leather reclining couches with a special head type doctor near you should run real fast before you find yourself going off the deep end so to say. Could it be that your heritage could include a hippy or two. Deaply concerned about you so you need to talk about this more. Maby one of them support type groups. Stay on the line we will try to help.

WallSal55    Posted 12-26-2002 at 18:26:06       [Reply]  [No Email]
Oh yes, definitely. I like to listen to others now with a different opinion than mine, basically
shut up, and listen as to why they think they
are right. And I do learn. I may not agree
with them, but find it interesting where their
ideas originate from.
(I used to hate debates in high school history
class, never really cared for that at all. I felt
threatened by them!)

Old Sarge    Posted 12-26-2002 at 19:44:52       [Reply]  [Send Email]
Just for the record: " The intent of the author of any text book for schools, was not to impart knowledge, rather to make some big bucks."

This learned through years of college and having to study the wars I went to fight. Boy did we get in some arguments, BIG TIME, with the professors. There were 5 of us military retirees in that class, totallying 126 years of serevice. Wound up getting the professor placed on probation.

screaminghollow    Posted 12-26-2002 at 21:00:21       [Reply]  [Send Email]
Talk about stupid books. My daughters 5th grade US history book says Virginia Dare was the first child of English parentage born in the new world, 1589 at Roanoke Island. later on the same page it says the first English women came to North America in 1619. Apparently Virginia Dare was born here about thirty years before her mother arrived?
On the next page it says in a caption to a picture, that the settlers at Jamestown were farmers. yet in the narrative part of the story it says they were fortune hunters and Capt. Smith had to lay down the law, no work no eat, etc.. Two glaring errors in two pages. And the teacher didn't catch either mistake.

Nat    Posted 12-26-2002 at 17:59:38       [Reply]  [Send Email]
seems to me that there is a whole lot more gray area than there used to be. I remember seeing stuff so clear in my 20's. religion, politics,anything, now I want my wife to help me pick out a truck, well, maybe not that gray, luck, Nat

Clem    Posted 12-26-2002 at 17:48:28       [Reply]  [No Email]
Boy oh boy, I know what you mean.

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