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About moving pigs..
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Cindi    Posted 01-10-2003 at 03:53:05       [Reply]  [Send Email]
I had to move a boar across an open pasture about a quarter acre in size, and before it was over he had inspected every square inch of it. Moving him the first time was a cinch. He was going in with three gilts to breed them. Moving him back was another story. My son Jake said I was doing it all wrong with the bait technique and that all I had to do was lasso him, even though he had never helped move a pig before he had all the answers. The last thing I needed was a thirteen year old who knew everything except how to follow directions.

My son's friend was fond of the squirrel technique. Run in real fast, chatter wildly at the pig until he got his attention and then run for the nearest tree. Jillian my oldest, tried sweet talking him. She got him in a corner and petted and cajoled until she lost her patience and screamed at him, sending him off on another tangent. My youngest, Jennifer, leaned against a fence post and laughed at us.

Finally what got his attention was a bucket of sweet feed. I had him going in the right direction, the kids were in place and actually helping, and I got hit with a none too subtle call of nature. Here I was, backing down the chute with my legs crossed, praying that he would get his big old rump far enough in the gate so that the kids could swing it closed.

Finally he just kind of sighed, brushed past me and went straight to his pen and his waterer. I knew at that moment I had been had. He had known all along what I wanted from him and I had assumed that he was confused and frightened and didn't know what was expected of him.

The second I got his pen door secured, the kids took off like wind in a smoke tunnel. I crossed the pasture to the house, legs still crossed, adjusting to the fact that I had been outsmarted by a pig. One hour to move about thirty yards. Yeah, he got me.

Les...fortunate    Posted 01-10-2003 at 17:12:02       [Reply]  [No Email]
Next time, try this: get an old piece of metal roofing, maybe 12 feet or so in length. Whatever you can handle or is available. Use that to herd him across the pasture. Don't crowd him. You're going to have to be plenty patient. It probably would help to have him a little hungry and have the food where you want him to end up.
I saw a 16 year old boy use this method to separate out about 5 sows from all their pigs and get them back into pens to be bred back. I was amazed at how well it worked. As long as they weren't crowded, they respected that piece of metal more than I would have suspected.

Dave    Posted 01-11-2003 at 13:07:21       [Reply]  [No Email]
In the book "Storey's Guide To Raising Pigs" the author talks about keeping "hurdles" a hurdle is described as being a 4ft by 4 ft sheet of plywood with handles cut in them for easy handling and can have many uses including "sorting, loading and restraining."

Larry    Posted 01-10-2003 at 14:44:29       [Reply]  [Send Email]

I used to make pets out of my sows and boars. It made it a lot easier to move them across an open yard. I wish now that I had taken pictures on moving day so some of you folks could see how easy it can be to move them.

Hogman********8    Posted 01-10-2003 at 06:43:47       [Reply]  [No Email]
Next time just leave tha gate open to His pen,assign one or of tha kids to watch and when he goes in shut tha gate. He will!!!!!!!!!No fuss,no muss tho He may want to stay out in tha open pen for a time and for sure if it sports any vegatation which He will dispose of in short order. Just remember ,even a baby pig wants "It's" bed at night...
Now if Ya want to get fancy about it just train Him to do Your biddin. Most of My Boars would mind better'n most Kids and poundin on em is no part of trainin.

And lastly You should understand that Hogs are a tad smarter than Dogs. Thats what makes it so hard doin anything with em cause You have ta be smarter than Them and that ain't easy.:>) FWIW

Bob/Ont    Posted 01-10-2003 at 19:45:29       [Reply]  [Send Email]
You know Hog that story scares me, boar can be a nasty and dangerous animal if they take a notion to be.
Later Bob

Hogman*******NAW**********    Posted 01-11-2003 at 01:34:11       [Reply]  [No Email]
Bob I always worried more about a Sow with a new litter freakin out on Me. But Your sure right about a Boar bein dangerous,can kill Ya in seconds,but have only had one turn on Me. I was tangled up in a bunch of Greenbrier,could'nt move and He decided He'd take a whack at Me. Was a little scary,only thing I could reach for a club was a dead limb that crumbled on tha first whack.
I resorted to tha "voice of tha master"and He backed up. But,it was scary!!!!!!!!

Maw Hog got Her knee hurt by a Boar but He had not intended to do it, just swung His head around and banged a Tusk inta tha knee.She said He acted like "OOPS,I'm sorry".Course She screamed which scared tha Boar.

countrymaritimer    Posted 01-10-2003 at 06:03:34       [Reply]  [Send Email]

I'm not sure how big this boar is but my wife and I would grab a hind leg and pull them backwards to move them, it is not pretty but seems to work. After getting a handful of pig patties a few times we switched methods. An old farmer told us to put a bucket or pale over their head and walk them backwards. Works well with two people, one pulls on the bucket (helps to have a handle) and the other pulls on the tail....again, not pretty but quite effective.

That is not to say I've never been outsmarted by a pig though, they are extremely bright, mine won a tug of war with the water hose as I was trying fill it water bucket and proceeded to turn the spray on me!! Not impressed although it was quite refreshing!!

E.Ray    Posted 01-10-2003 at 11:23:13       [Reply]  [Send Email]
I have heard my dad talk about putting a hog where you want him by putting a bucket over his head. I think the trick was, you are suppose to peck the bucket with a tob. stick. Or what ever kind of stick you can find. Peck on one side or the other to guide him.

Dave    Posted 01-11-2003 at 11:46:04       [Reply]  [No Email]
When Iza kid we had a blind herford calf (named charlie) that we kept in a pen by the house for a few months. Well the pen wasn't a very good one and he'd get out and I'd guide him back in by runnin behind him with a long stick and if I wanted him to go right I'd tap him on the left side of the face etc. Only thing was he could run fastern me and once in a while he'd center uh tree and stagger round a bit, but I always eventually got him back in.

E. Ray    Posted 01-10-2003 at 11:29:25       [Reply]  [Send Email]
I should have said "peck on one side or the other and he will back-up anywhere you want him"....Ray

Cindi    Posted 01-10-2003 at 06:51:59       [Reply]  [No Email]
I have heard that bucket thing before. This particular pig was about five hundred pounds and with my tendinitis he would have killed me. He was a nice pig tho. We lost him. He broke his leg and had to be put down.

Bob/Ont    Posted 01-10-2003 at 19:54:45       [Reply]  [Send Email]
Cindi, you might be better to just put his feed in the pen and wait for him to get hungry. It's no place for the kids around him if he takes a mad spell, they sometimes do.
Later Bob

Cindi    Posted 01-10-2003 at 21:29:20       [Reply]  [No Email]
You know I haven't had any bad experiences with any of our boars yet.....but....our boar Bear scares me for reasons I can't quite explain. Hercules is a red Duroc boar, and when I look in his eyes I see this dum de dum de dum dum type pig that would climb in your lap I think if he could. Sweet as sugar pie. Even at 700 lbs or so. However, I have also seen him pick up a five hundred pound sow under the rear end and toss her across the breeding pen like a wet bed sheet. Do I want to turn my back on him? Uh uh.

Porky, the one we just had put down due to a broken leg was also seemingly harmless and he was just about a year old so still had a lot of growing to do. He's the one that we had to move that day. Big old dog was what he acted like.

Now Bear. He's got this look in his eye like there's a lot going on in his head. Like he's thinking things. Things that are not nice. He was fully mature when we got him and maybe it's just the look of experience, I don't know, but I also don't know all the details of his history either so I take exactly zero chances with him. Unlike Herc or Porky, we do not go in his pen with him at any time. He must be moved first if we need to do any maintenece or repairs, using a chute system. Sows and gilts come to him to be bred, not the other way around. If he needs a shot, we bait him to the fence and give it to him through the fence. Caution is the word with Bear. Fred got that same instinct when he first interacted with the pig so it's unanimous.

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