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Another Government-introduced predator species
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Tom A    Posted 01-15-2003 at 02:28:10       [Reply]  [No Email]
I just read an article that the USDA is going to introduce a South American "phorid fly" into Florida to control the fire ants.

Supposedly they will kill fire ants without harming anything else, and are going to release the flys in the Sarasota County area. If that works, they'll expand the release into other areas. Hope we know what we're doing!

Tom


I ain't much in favor of anything the govermint do, but    Posted 01-15-2003 at 17:46:42       [Reply]  [No Email]
you folks need to live a while in real fireant and kudzu country.
Bout a week ago the Missus wuz out in the yard when I heered a whoop. She was running around like a chicken with it's head cut off, cept she wuz plum neekid. She lit out cross the field and fell in the big gulley covered with kudzu. Seems she must have got into the ants. Ain't seen her in a week. Old cow jumped the fence and hens quit laying. Ain't had no milk and eggs since. Guess I'll mosey over to the gulley and take a peek soon as the weather warms up.


Bambi    Posted 01-17-2003 at 07:52:10       [Reply]  [Send Email]
Oh I did live in fire any country! I moved from Calif to Tx, and on my 2nd day in Baytown (ugly ugly miserable little town) I was walkin barefoot in the yard and saw this mound of dirt and kicked it! HUGE MISTAKE! It was a fire ant hill, and a big one at that. I got bit so many times that my foot swelled so much I could not wear a shoe for a week, was so very sick that I had to go to the emergency room. SO I do know fire ants, personally. But, I still do not trust the government and their big ideas. History does repeat itself...repeatedly.


Bambi    Posted 01-15-2003 at 08:58:24       [Reply]  [Send Email]
First question to Gary.. what purpose does a fire ant serve aside from causing excrutiating pain? But, an old adage (commecial?) says "Don't mess with Mother Nature!" I agree with that. Nature takes care of itself. Eventually something will evolve naturally that will just love the taste of fire ants. In the meantime I think we should leave well enough alone!
Besides, if it is a government program (like them trying to force 3rd world countries to eat genetically modified foods) I have absolutly positively without a second thought no faith in the program succeding!
And that's just my take on it!


Gary,Mt. Hermon, La.    Posted 01-15-2003 at 09:30:09       [Reply]  [No Email]
ants clean up after the rest of the planets creatures. and I quote...

"Incidentally, it turns out that fire ants like to eat termites almost as much as they like to eat ticks. In fact, the fire ant’s motto seems to be - ‘If it is not a rock, it is probably a "snack" - so eat it!’



Bambi    Posted 01-15-2003 at 09:42:37       [Reply]  [Send Email]
Thank you for the good laugh! But I think I will get some Guinea hens to take care of the tick problem thank you very much... :)


kraig WY    Posted 01-15-2003 at 08:03:59       [Reply]  [Send Email]
Problem as I see it is that if the government introduced it, then its protected, which means you're gonna have to get rid of you fly traps from the barn and back poarch so's you don't get one accidently, which means more horse/house flys, and on and on.

Kind of like the wolves in Yellow Stone that wont stay in Yellow Stone.


DeadCarp    Posted 01-15-2003 at 07:10:22       [Reply]  [No Email]
Let the Aussies tell you about flies: Australia being 500 miles closer to the equator has so many blow-flies the folks have developed a distinctive "wave" - it's sorta like thumbing your nose but not touching it, even Princess Di waved that way at the horse races. The flies prompted those hats with the corks hanging around them and all kinds of things. The flies apparently like sheep sores and cattle dung, so now dung beetles are kinda getting popular.
The cane toads introduced in the 30s are pesky too, but that's another environmental disaster altogether. And of course, the last thing we Yanks would want to do is ask the neighbors :)



Gary, Mt. Hermon, La.    Posted 01-15-2003 at 05:55:43       [Reply]  [No Email]
Why don't they just leave well enough alone. Fire ants serve a purpose on the planet, just because humans haven't figured out yet how to avoid them doesn't mean we should destroy the species.


DHunter n NOLa    Posted 01-15-2003 at 02:48:37       [Reply]  [No Email]
Tom, I share your concern about introducing another predator species into the environment. I don't know where you live but I live close to New Orleans and fireants here are a HUGE problem. I'm for trying just about anything. We just need some relief from fire ants.
I've read about the 'phorid fly' and the mechanism by which it kills fire ants and it sounds good to me. The unknown is, what else will it adversly affect?
Same old scenerio, you tweek one button and then you need to tweek ten others to get things back on an even keel.


Spence    Posted 01-15-2003 at 12:35:42       [Reply]  [No Email]
Agree, just ask any Australian about jumping right in without thinking over the repercussions.

Now they're overrun with rabbits,canetoads, and mice that have no Australian natural enemies. A legacy of not covering all the bases. With all due respect, these people don't seem to learn very fast either.


Tom A    Posted 01-15-2003 at 04:16:12       [Reply]  [No Email]
Another story that shows there is never an easy answer for these kinds of problems.

I lived in Texas for 4 years and fought the fire ants, so I know how bad they can be. I don't know the "right" answer, but I have reservations about continuing to release more and more new species seemingly without a lot of advanced thought and testing.

Just reminds me of the old kids' song "she swallowed the dog to get the cat to get the mouse to get the spider..." it kept getting worse and it never ended!

Good luck with them things, DH.
Tom


Spence    Posted 01-16-2003 at 10:04:58       [Reply]  [No Email]
Yeah, and the Killer bees are just getting going.


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