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Tree I Can Not ID...
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Salmoneye    Posted 01-28-2003 at 06:08:18       [Reply]  [Send Email]
I was told by an 'Arborist' that the tree below was a 'Pin Cherry'...Wrong...The fruit is the wrong colour and has three lemon wedge shaped seeds, and is not a 'drupe' (one pit like a cherry)...Cedar Waxwings will clear out all the berries un the next few weeks on their way North...I have these trees everywhere, and would just like to know the correct name...

Any help with ID is much appreciated...

PS This is the tree outside the door that has the thermometer hung on it and that is the current temp...


Salmoneye...FOUND IT!!!    Posted 01-28-2003 at 16:47:57       [Reply]  [Send Email]
My thanks to everyone, and especially Joe!!!

It is in fact 'Common Buckthorn' and not 'Alder Buckthorn'...

Here is a link with a pic of what I see all over my land in the late summer...


Even Better...    Posted 01-28-2003 at 17:14:07       [Reply]  [Send Email]
Geeze...Good thing I didn't try and sell any...Apparently, it is illegal to sell Buckthorn in Vermont...

If you care...The link below is a PDF file of the Vermont Statutes pertaining to 'noxious' weeds...You will need Adobe Accrobat Reader to follow the link...

Thanks To All Again!!!


Les...fortunate    Posted 01-28-2003 at 12:27:40       [Reply]  [No Email]
Whew!! I'm sure glad you got it figgered out before I got in and looked at yer post. My status as a forester/arborist would have taken a big plunge. The bark sure looks cherry-ish. You're sure it isn't Mountain Ash?


Salmoneye    Posted 01-28-2003 at 12:35:22       [Reply]  [Send Email]
Ayuh...Positive...

I have a few Mountain Ash...Some really old ones here...These berries turn black when 'ripe'...I do believe that Joe is correct...From the pics I have seen of the Alder Buckthorn on the net, I am pretty sure now...The leaves and rest are exact...No pics I can find anywhere near the age of some of the ones I have though...


Corey    Posted 01-28-2003 at 12:11:56       [Reply]  [No Email]
What about the important question: Is it edible?


Salmoneye    Posted 01-28-2003 at 12:31:22       [Reply]  [Send Email]
Well...I have tasted it...darn bitter till this time of year...they basically freeze-dry on the tree and turn into raisins...I do not recommend eating them after reading about Alder Buckthorn though!


Corey    Posted 01-28-2003 at 18:00:36       [Reply]  [No Email]
From the description on that link, it looks like a pie made out these things would make you a real 'regular'guy. LOL


joe    Posted 01-28-2003 at 08:57:58       [Reply]  [No Email]
I believe this tree may be an Alder Buckthorn
(Rhamnus frangula) and invasive species from Europe.


Dang!    Posted 01-28-2003 at 09:32:55       [Reply]  [Send Email]
I think you are right!

Now...did you know this off the top of your head, or did you find it, and if so, how?

Thanks!

Salmoneye


Joe (Wis)    Posted 01-29-2003 at 08:05:05       [Reply]  [No Email]
I had a pretty good idea then checked it out in a tree book in my office and finally confirmed it on the net. The key was the multiple seeds and black fruit. The hard part was your picture of the bark, which certainly does look like Cherry. Glad I could help--take care


Nathan(GA)    Posted 01-28-2003 at 08:47:45       [Reply]  [No Email]
Looks similar to what we call wild cherry here. But I've learned that things get called wrong names and passed down the generations.

Not sure on the pit aspects. Don't remember what these have.


Greg VT    Posted 01-28-2003 at 08:16:23       [Reply]  [Send Email]
I've got a lot of those around the place too. I've been calling them pin cherrys but now you got me wondering.

Can't wait to get home and pick some fruit...

-22 this a.m. in the hills of Sheldon.


Mike W    Posted 01-28-2003 at 07:32:35       [Reply]  [Send Email]
Down here in Taxachusettes we would call that a choke cherry / wild cherry.

Mike W (former arborist of 18 years)


Larry    Posted 01-28-2003 at 07:45:20       [Reply]  [Send Email]

Around here the choke cherry or black cherry has only one seed in it. I'm kind of curious as to what this is too.


Salmoneye    Posted 01-28-2003 at 08:15:01       [Reply]  [Send Email]
I am very familiar with Choke Cherry and Black Cherry, and this aint either...Not a true 'cherry' (Prunus) at all as it does not have a single pit or stone...

Thanks for the input, but I am stumped...I even went so far as to look at a half dozen places that sell 'ornamental' bushes and shrubbery and every Tree ID place I can find on the net...


Larry    Posted 01-28-2003 at 09:41:02       [Reply]  [Send Email]

I even sent this to a profesor at the university I work at. Maybe he will give us a answer.


Dwayne W PA    Posted 01-28-2003 at 07:00:20       [Reply]  [No Email]
not sure.....chokecherry??black cherry?? looks like some sorta cherry bark...(aside from wildcherry)


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