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Anyone own an 8N Tractor?
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Spence    Posted 02-07-2003 at 20:22:50       [Reply]  [No Email]
I know this should be on ytmag, but was wondering if anyone with an 8N tractor uses a baler, what type it is and how does the tractor handle the load? I'm thinking of buying an 8N
but not sure if it is powerful enough.

Thanks.


Murray    Posted 02-08-2003 at 17:22:33       [Reply]  [Send Email]
Hi Spence, If wanting to purchase a good tractor for every day use, your best purchase is a MF 35(gas) or 135 (diesel) The 8n does a great job, they were invented before the hay baler became real popular. I bought an 8n about 5 years ago it was beat up badly,we are now in the process of a complete rebuild. I now have have a MF135, nice machine to work with and the live hydraulics, makes a big difference. Cheers, Murray


Pic of my Tractor..Ken N Tx    Posted 02-08-2003 at 13:31:59       [Reply]  [No Email]

Its not an 8N, but a '45 2N..


Spence    Posted 02-08-2003 at 15:50:58       [Reply]  [No Email]
Nice looking machine!!!!


Drive this to Church on Sunday.....    Posted 02-08-2003 at 13:35:01       [Reply]  [No Email]

Has wipers.....


LL    Posted 02-08-2003 at 14:13:50       [Reply]  [No Email]
They look nice but do they wory?


LL    Posted 02-08-2003 at 14:14:43       [Reply]  [No Email]
Work*


Jimbob    Posted 02-08-2003 at 13:29:31       [Reply]  [No Email]
I am a novice at tractors, here is what I know. To maintain a small hay field or larger (if you have time) about a minimum of 30 drawbar horsepower is needed. This is for a square baler like a JD 14T or New Holland Super 67. The 'drawbar' tests were by Nebraska Tractor Test Labs. Some persons just use manufactures advertised tractor horsepower as a reference less 15%, for example, to figure pulling power. This does not work out so well at times. The Nebraska tests add weight to the tractor, well over 1000 lbs for small tractor tests. Thus, you can be misleaded. Tractor weight is a large factor. Next, I do not want a tractor that I have to buy used parts if I can avoid it. I like a choice between used or new for the most part. Not good having a tractor that is broken for a month because of a smaller part. I am talking about a radiator, starter (or rebuild kit), engine parts, water pump, etc.
Next, I like a good deal. Older John Deere tractors are more expensive due to collector value right now. I do not want to pay extra for that if a $1000 can be saved on another manufacture. Of course, a great deal on a John Deere is, well, a great deal.
For hay field work, you want a live PTO thus can stop feeding the baler with stopping the tractor forward motion and let the baler catch up by running independently of the tractor. If your wife may use the tractor, power steering would be best. A three point rear hydraulic system is also good if you have or want a future rototiller other impliments.
This all sounds great, but even the most basic tractor beats hand tools. Anyways, my top 'survival picks' that include reliability & plenty of replacement parts are the Allis Chalmers D-17 series IV, Massey Ferguson MF 35, or Ford 660 or 661 series. (Do not get any Ford with the select-o-matic trans). These are great tractors at reasonable prices, enough horsepower to get the job done on a small farm.
Low or no dollars, find what you can. Hope this helps.


tlak    Posted 02-08-2003 at 16:01:46       [Reply]  [Send Email]
The only thing about the 660-661 are that I would almost label them rare. I watch the ads and I believe I have only seen two in all my surfing this site and many others. A better choice would be the 860-861. Ive seen alot of these even in my local neighborhood. You get a bigger engine and larger rear.


Jimbob....Is the 961 Rare? nt    Posted 02-08-2003 at 17:36:18       [Reply]  [No Email]
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tlak    Posted 02-09-2003 at 02:48:31       [Reply]  [Send Email]
Probably not. I've seen alot of these for sale. I would put it in the desirable catagory but I think any with the *60-*61 option fit this catagory more so if you have the wide front option with power steering. Your 960 will have the larger power train like the 800 series.


Jimbob    Posted 02-08-2003 at 08:12:00       [Reply]  [No Email]
Not a Ford 8N, but own a Ford 961 built in 1958. I am also will buy a smaller tractor this summer. I like tha AC D-12, but probally too small for my 7-point cullivator & other tasks. I think a Massey-Furguson 35 is the smallest tractor to get my jobs done. I am doing research & will get back with you on suggested tractors. I have a list of what tractors are best value & have many new parts still available.


Spence    Posted 02-08-2003 at 09:45:02       [Reply]  [No Email]
Thanks for the tip!!


Tom A    Posted 02-08-2003 at 06:33:27       [Reply]  [Send Email]
48 8N, and love it.

As most folks say, it isn't the ideal baling tractor, but it will handle a small square baler. I used a MF #10 with my N for a couple of years. I eventually got rid of the baler not because of the tractor but lack of parts availability on the baler.

The biggest shortfall that hasn't been mentioned yet is not lack of power or live PTO, but weight. Most balers weigh about the same as the tractor. On my property, with all the hills, I have to be very careful about the soil being dry for several inches down or else I become a bobsled with the baler hooked up.

All that said, if you're careful and not in a big hurry, an 8N is not a bad baling tractor. I will eventually buy a NH baler to use with it, as soon as I find one in decent shape at the right price. And for everything else, it is a great tractor: low CG, sufficient power, standard 3 pt hitch, low fuel consumption, easy and cheap parts availability, and all the good advice in the world on the 8N board.

Tom A


Ron/PA    Posted 02-08-2003 at 01:38:33       [Reply]  [No Email]
Hi Spence, I have an 8N and prolly will never part with it, however it is not the ideal baling tractor. Without live PTO you need to do alot of "kick it out of gear, and let the clutch out" to let the baler catch up. It also lacks the power steering that I will be looking for in a few years.
However we do a little baling with ours, sometimes it's the only thing available and it will do the job. Even though it's my favorite tractor, it's not always the best one for the job.
Later
Ron


LH    Posted 02-08-2003 at 06:11:45       [Reply]  [No Email]
Ron I applaud your courage for actually admitting you own one of those little Ford wannabe tractors LOL :-)


Burrhead    Posted 02-08-2003 at 16:28:24       [Reply]  [No Email]
He must shonuff have a brass set
I've heard that some fellers with them Ndorfs wear wimmin's drawers. Naw naw wait a second..........mebee it's them fellers that have farmalittles.


Ron/PA    Posted 02-08-2003 at 06:46:34       [Reply]  [No Email]
LH, I really meant to post that under an assumed name,, LOL
UHHHHH Fred


PS    Posted 02-08-2003 at 04:47:54       [Reply]  [No Email]
If you go over to the N board and do an archives search you will probably find enough on this subject to keep you in reading material til 1st cutting,
Later
Ron


Salmoneye    Posted 02-08-2003 at 00:51:53       [Reply]  [Send Email]
I love my 8N...but...

You would be better served with a later model in the hundred series...One that has more power and LIVE PTO!

Sometimes you just need to stop forward motion and let the baler churn to catch up...

I love (as some would say who shall remain nameless) my Little Pink Dorf...They are a two bottom plough pullin fool...They are one heck of a hoggin machine, and you will be hard pressed to find a better worker in the woods or orchard due to size and stability...But...They do have their limitations...

HTH



LL    Posted 02-08-2003 at 04:29:55       [Reply]  [No Email]
I still like my International Harvester M275. It is just a little bigger than an 8N and has live pto but could use power steering. We call it a Hard Starting SOB cause the glow plugs have been out for 20 years but I know how to get around that.


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